View Full Version : The 55 Kicks of Sikaran?
arnisador
09-12-2006, 08:19 PM
From this site (http://www.geocities.com/jkdinstructor/sikaran.html?200612):
The Filipino art of kicking has 40 fundamental kicks, they are divided into 3 categories Front, Side and Back . There are 3 types of Filipino kicks snapping, thrusting, snap thrusting. Advanced students were required to be able to execute 55 kicks, which include advanced complex kicks. Here are the 55 kicks of The Filipino art of Sikaran:
A list follows. Are there, indeed, exactly 55 kicks? What's a slash kick?
Far Walkers Moon
09-12-2006, 11:30 PM
I believe you will in that the number of kick varies with each organization. Also the names of some the kicks may vary
Viking
09-16-2006, 04:19 PM
Yaw-Yan another filippino Kicking style is having similar kicking curriculum .Check out their website www.yawyan.com (http://www.yawyan.com).
Yaw-Yan are famous for their powerful and unorthodox kicks.They are famous for executing powerful kicks from difficult angles
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cIMKV2d3bHM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5dTd44yjkx4&mode=related&search=
Regards
Sheldon Bedell
09-16-2006, 09:22 PM
would you estimate how many different kicks there are in Yaw_yan. and could you give a description of some of the ones we might not be familiar with
Viking
09-20-2006, 05:38 AM
Sheldon Bedell,
I still havnt got a chanve to train in Yaw-Yan ,but I am an admirer of the art. i dont know much about thier differant kicks.I am putting below a part of IKF magazine article about YY which came out 1982.It's about Yaw-Yan kicks I think it will give you a better understanding.
Yaw Yan
The Philippine Dance of Death (The Article is taken from the " Inside Kung-fu" Magazine
November 1982 /Volume 9,No 11)
By Glenn Kearney
An Art of Kicking
Yaw Yan has some 40 basic kicks, as opposed to the four basic kicks used in most styles of martial arts (i.e., front, roundhouse, side and back kicks).There are many variations of these four basic kicks, including, jumping, spinning, dropping, and stepping kicks, but they are all in fact, derived from the four basic kicks.
Yaw Yan has 40 different basic kicks and with variations, their kicking arsenal totals over 200 kicks.
The kicks are broken down in to three categories: frontal, side and back (the names describe where the kick is delivered from, not the type of kick used) Frontal kicks are delivered from an upright position directly forward, sidekicks from the side with the body on an angle and back kicks from rear with the body and kicking leg in a straight line.
The three categories are then broken down to describe the striking area used: snap, thrust, snap thrust, and heel snap. Areas used striking surfaces include the ball of the foot, the instep, the shin, knee, calf, thigh, and the side of the foot, toes and the sole of the foot.
The final breakdown in the kicking terminology describes the manner in which the kicks are used. Yaw Yan kicks are delivered in the manner similar to the way strikes are executed in Arnis. The kicks may slash at different angles across an opponent, chop down, thrust into, or hook around.
Variation of this kicking arsenal includes jumping, spinning, turning, sliding, stepping inside or outside kicks and combinations.
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We had and have some long discussions about YY in MAP. Here is the links
http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42816&highlight=yawyan
http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34634&page=1&pp=15&highlight=yawyan
http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34452&highlight=yawyan
Hope this helps
Regards
Carol
09-20-2006, 05:52 AM
Wow, there is a lot of really good information about Yaw-Yan there. Thanks so much for posting those links, Viking!
Viking
09-20-2006, 07:14 AM
Wow, there is a lot of really good information about Yaw-Yan there. Thanks so much for posting those links, Viking!
You are very welcome and i am glad you liked it .
In Yaw-Yan blogsite they have put some interesting pictures taken on Yaw-Yan 34th Anniversary.There are pictues of their famous bolo punches ,Yaw-yan weaponaries etc.
http://www.yawyanpasay.blogspot.com/
And Check out some Yaw-Yan videos from you tube
YY Training
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NZxeBv0fJ-w
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WZuDVj6GijM
Yaw-Yan Combat
http://youtube.com/watch?v=h4eU1vN7mjU
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bC1-tqgaOuY
http://youtube.com/watch?v=d6X9ieP1Wl4
Regards
arnisador
09-20-2006, 09:59 AM
Yaw-yan weapons? I thought it was all sport! I see some sticks at the blog but it seems to be labeled "Arnis sticks" there.
Viking
09-20-2006, 12:59 PM
Yaw-Yan is said to be arnis lesss sticks.Most of the punches,kicks ,elbows are empty handed translation of arnis strikes.Yaw-Yan has weaponaries, but empty hands are given more importance.it's said yaw-yan is influenced by Arnis Lanada.I dont know much about it.
If you are checking the blog site again ,they have given some pictures of bolo punches and how it developed from arnis strikes.
Now Yaw-Yans are bringing back all the other aspects of Yaw-Yan ,their street fighting style(Yy combat), the weponaries etc.
Regards
Sheldon Bedell
09-20-2006, 09:55 PM
interesting links. thanks
arnisador
10-06-2006, 10:10 AM
Yaw-Yan is said to be arnis lesss sticks.Most of the punches,kicks ,elbows are empty handed translation of arnis strikes.
I had always thought it took a more different approach, but the links were enlightening!
langgaw
10-07-2006, 08:55 PM
.....just FYI.....the arnis version of yawyan in Cebu is called Aryan.
arnisador
10-29-2006, 12:32 AM
I haven't heard this before! Do you have a link to such a system?
langgaw
11-01-2006, 01:22 AM
No one ever has (I mean outside of the circle)...this is not a known system. In fact this may be the first time said or introduced outside of the Dojo (with masters permission of course). It is practiced by Master Julius of the Cebu Yawyan and has been tested in various meets where they are allowed. In fact it is not allowed and they are disqualified in joining olisi or continous fighting tournaments. I think there is a clip in you tube showing the exercise on a punch bag. Just lately has it been introduced in the open but has been used for quite sometime now. It is very difficult to use in tournament with rules even in continous fighting because of the power use in the stikes. It tends to awe the defender because of the alternate use of the tip and the end (+/- 3" from the tip) when used in random or rhytmical attacks. The check hand is active mostly in the jabbing and punching in between strikes ( only 10% use for checking the oponents stick and live hand). The focus is in hitting the defender and not worry about being hit. Quite a paradox here because once the attack is initiated, the defender goes into defense mode and forgets about getting offensive....meaning less concern about his strikes. ....besides the aryan user will get hit one time or another anyway ....so if he focuses on attacking and just say ouch under his breath (hehehe) when hit, then the offensive manner in which the stick is used in rapid moves gives him the advantage. Another interesting point of view is that aryan user allows the defender to hit first so that the A-user knows exactly where the defenders stick is and thus can decide (qickly of course) where to start the powerstrikes. The training is very tough and requires training specific body parts and muscles to achieve teh aryan moves. There are only 7 of use who mastered this keeping it to a disciplined few. This is not meant to brag but I have convinced my peers to start sharing this for the sake of the FMA. It is not intended to dominate or be better than other arts because I am sure there are better ones out there than this. This is just to discribe simply what it is. If this sounds boastful, please say so and I will stop even mentioning about this aryan besides I do not endorse its useanyway. .... Quite lethal and is not recommended at all in sport tournaments. This is the first information about aryan and I hope this helps a little bit. Good health to all.
Carol
11-01-2006, 02:45 AM
Interesting. Now I'm curious if Grandtuhon Tortal has heard the same. I'll ask him this weekend. :)
Viking
11-02-2006, 03:20 PM
Hi Langaw,
Really interesting,
So is the Aryan style ,the orginal style from which G.Master Nap developed Yaw-yan .Can you share the history of the system where it orginated and all.What are the other weapons used in this system.
This is the only link which i found before which give some information about the system.
http://www.asianfestivaldc.com/schedule_culture.html
It is a Philippine indigenous blade based fighting art... Filipino Martial Art or (FMA) system. The ARYAN SYTEM , the unorthodox form. , an internal art of the original YawYan or ("Sayaw ng Kamatayan" - Death Dance), which is Thailand's" Muay Thai " version. It has no belt classification just real deal offense / defense skills....not commercial versions. Training starts from weapons to empty hands to ground level combat. This is the system that the first Filipino hero (Lapu-lapu) developed as a legacy to the Filipinos.
Bruce Lee was a Eskrima student of one of our Filipino grandmasters to complete his Jeet Kune Do. He then showed his eskrima (arnis ) skills in his film "ENTER THE DRAGON".
Thank you
Viking
11-04-2006, 04:56 AM
A short video of YAW-YAN WEAPONARIES-Long Staff and Chaku
http://thekg.multiply.com/video/item/44
Thanks
arnisador
11-22-2006, 03:09 PM
A short video of YAW-YAN WEAPONARIES-Long Staff and Chaku
http://thekg.multiply.com/video/item/44
Cool, thanks!
Viking
01-24-2007, 12:34 PM
Interview -Yaw-Yan GM Napolean Fernandez
http://undergroundhit.com/
Best Regards
ChrisS
01-27-2007, 03:36 PM
Interesting. I had not heard of Yaw-Yan before this thread.
Our system of Sikaran isn't broken down into three angular categories like these 55 kicks are, but in a progressional sequence from basic kicks to advanced. As students become comfortable with the basic kicks, they begin to learn variations for those kicks like different angles of attack, striking areas, breakaway, spinning, and jumping. For example, after one learns the basic roundhouse kick, variations such as driving the kick forward and hitting the thigh, ribs, or head with the shin are looked at. Further, learning how to turn the hips over slightly more and cutting the kick in a downward diagonal to the thigh, ribs, and head will follow. There seems to be a number of similarities between the Yaw-Yan kicks and our kicks -- as Far Walkers Moon said, the major differences are mostly in naming and presentation of the techniques.
Viking
01-27-2007, 07:32 PM
Interesting. I had not heard of Yaw-Yan before this thread.
Our system of Sikaran isn't broken down into three angular categories like these 55 kicks are, but in a progressional sequence from basic kicks to advanced. As students become comfortable with the basic kicks, they begin to learn variations for those kicks like different angles of attack, striking areas, breakaway, spinning, and jumping. For example, after one learns the basic roundhouse kick, variations such as driving the kick forward and hitting the thigh, ribs, or head with the shin are looked at. Further, learning how to turn the hips over slightly more and cutting the kick in a downward diagonal to the thigh, ribs, and head will follow. There seems to be a number of similarities between the Yaw-Yan kicks and our kicks -- as Far Walkers Moon said, the major differences are mostly in naming and presentation of the techniques.
Thats interesting,is it a different style of sikaran you getting trained .
And about your Grandmaster?
I see you are from Canada .There is a Yaw-Yan gym in Canada.It's headed by one of the first genereation disciples of GM Nap Fernanadez
Their website is http://www.universalmixedmartialarts.com
Best regards
ChrisS
01-27-2007, 08:22 PM
Our school doesn't focus solely on Sikaran -- we practice Mano-Mano, a blend of Sikaran, Boksing, Arnis, and Dumog, to create a well-rounded curriculum. I wouldn't say we practice a totally different style of Sikaran, as all the elements are present, it's just broken down a bit further into basics. The strategy is to never spend too much time on just kicking, punching, forms, tournaments, or self defense, but to find a balance. However, if one wants to put extra effort into, say, Sikaran, then it is possible.
My instructor is Amang Guro Vicente (Vic) Ferrer, a 7th degree black belt in Sikaran under GM Meliton C. Geronimo and the World Sikaran Arnis Brotherhood.
Also, thanks for the Yaw-Yan link.
arnisador
03-03-2007, 01:43 PM
What do you mean by Mano-Mano? We usually use it as a fairly general term for empty-hand techniques.
ChrisS
03-05-2007, 06:13 PM
Right, loosely translated it means 'empty hand' or 'hand-to-hand'. We use it not as a designation for techniques, but as a name for our overall art. Within our Mano-Mano system there are elements of Sikaran, Boksing, Arnis, and Dumog. When talking about the regular class that is taught, it is called Mano-Mano to refer to all these different aspects.
Sheldon Bedell
03-19-2007, 06:35 PM
sounds like an interesting blend of styles. Anychance there are any links with pics
arnisador
04-04-2007, 12:44 AM
Yes, links would be great!
ChrisS
04-08-2007, 01:52 PM
Here is our website, with several pictures and some information.
http://www.worldmanomano.com
Also, I posted some videos over in the Videos forum.
http://fmatalk.com/showthread.php?t=1735
Viking
05-15-2007, 07:27 AM
Yaw-Yan Ardigma cebu Footage..very nice.you can see some interesting combinations.
scorpion kicks demo is shown at 7:04
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vAkyzJpRIUw
Best regards
arnisador
07-01-2007, 05:48 PM
Is there a historical connection between Sikaran and Yaw-Yan?
Carol
07-11-2007, 09:33 PM
I'm still trying to wrap my head around 55 kicks. That's....a lot of kicks :eek:
arnisador
07-11-2007, 11:01 PM
Hwa Rang Do claims to have 365 kicks, one for each day of the year!
BushidoFMA
08-03-2007, 06:02 AM
if you want to see a sikaran kick go to www.youtube.com/cbusikaran (http://www.youtube.com/cbusikaran)
we are from cebu,philippines
Carol
08-28-2007, 05:07 AM
Hwa Rang Do claims to have 365 kicks, one for each day of the year!
Grimfang mentioned earlier today that he sees the system as having 24 kicks as opposed to the 55 or so....and that could even go further down than that. It's not because the 55 kicks are distinct...its because many of them are variations on one another.
Which feels a bit more...manageable ;)
arnisador
09-02-2007, 08:40 PM
Is there a list of those 24 kicks, I wonder?
Carol
09-02-2007, 11:02 PM
If he feels like sharing, he will. He has an active account here. ;)
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