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arnisador
07-22-2009, 11:40 AM
Human Stabbed a Neanderthal, Evidence Suggests (http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090721/sc_livescience/humanstabbedaneanderthalevidencesuggests)


Newly analyzed remains suggest that a modern human killed a Neanderthal man in what is now Iraq between 50,000 and 75,000 years ago. The finding is scant but tantalizing evidence for a theory that modern humans helped to kill off the Neanderthals.

The probable weapon of choice: A thrown spear.


The team also ran experiments with a specially calibrated crossbow, which they used to deliver stone-pointed spears with different forces to simulate a thrusting spear and a long-range projectile weapon like a dart.

The weapons were thrust into pig and other animal carcasses. "Pigs make a pretty good model for Neandertal thoraces," Churchill told LiveScience. "The ribs are about the same stoutness and overall same size. And the musculature and skin thickness and things like that are pretty similar from what we can tell."

Then, the researchers compared the wounds created by the different scenarios, finding the thrusting spears did lots of damage, breaking multiple ribs.

"With the projectile weapon, even though it's traveling faster, it's a lot lighter and it tends to make distinct cut marks in the bones without injuring surrounding bones. That's like what we saw in Shanidar 3," Churchill said.

arnisador
08-02-2009, 12:32 AM
Italy finds 4,500-year old skeleton of warrior (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090801/sc_nm/us_italy_warrior)


A roughly 4,500 year-old skeleton of a man, probably a warrior killed by an arrow to the chest, has been discovered on a beach south of Rome, Italian police said.

The well-preserved skeleton, dubbed "Nello," was found during a routine flyover around areas of archaeological interest in May that prompted police to probe a fissure in the ground.

"We thought it was that of a Roman solider, but then the experts identified it as dating back to the third millennium B.C.," said Raffaele Mancino, an official with the police division overseeing Italy's cultural heritage.

geezer
08-02-2009, 05:18 PM
Human Stabbed a Neanderthal, Evidence Suggests (http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090721/sc_livescience/humanstabbedaneanderthalevidencesuggests)

Cool stuff, Arni. From the story, it looks more like a shooting --with a small spear or large arrow shot from an atlatl. Boy, if you ever had to go up against a Neanderthal, you'd definitely would want to use a projectile weapon. Ever see their skeletons? You really wouldn't have a chance with a stone knife or club. I mean imaging hitting someone full force on the head with a stout piece of kamagong and having them laugh at you... if Neanderthals actually did laugh. Probably did. Even chimps sorta do. But I digress.

PG Michael B
08-06-2009, 12:51 PM
I wonder was the geographical location somewhere close to what would soon be Nuevo Laredo, Mexico....lol.....some stab happy neanderthals down there right now....LOL