Kudos to Dos Triques

[gagimilo]

I wanted to share something with you guys. I received my Dos Triques video earlier today and immediately sat to watch it, but than again that's nothing new, I do it every time I have new video :wink2:

However, although I had good things to say about other people and their videos in the past, something really stood out with this one. It took me some pondering to figure out what, and finally I got it! This DVD beautifully puts together and glues everything else DBs have done so far!

I mean, even though I had high expectations of any of Guro Crafty's productions, this one really does feature the most coherent structure and clear, logical presentation, along with immediate illustrations of the concepts taught in the footage of DB fights.

However, the last portion also bears my only (minor) complaint. Namely, while I really like the "if you see it taught, you see it fought" approach, sometime the ratio of the two tends to be a little bit too much on the sparring footage, and some fights do not really need be shown in slo-mo in their entirety. But then again, maybe its because I have already seen so many of DB videos, so I have developed the eye to see some of the things in the more dynamic form as well :cool:

The bottom line is, nevertheless, that I love this video and see myself really digging into the material. Thanks for keeping good stuff coming Guro C!

[Carol]

Interesting! I'm curious, how did the method get its name? Literally translated, dos triques either means "two cracks" or "two tricks". There must be more to the story. ;)

[bttcanada@videotron.ca]

I believe that "Dos Triques" is a word game on the 3 K's (tri-ques)of Kali and Krabi Krabong, the source material for this video.

Crafty Dog is fluent in Spanish and appreciates a bi-lingual turn of phrase.

[gagimilo]

It might also have to do with the fact that the DVD itself is mostly concerned with double sticks, i.e. fighting with two of them...

[Sisco T.]

It might also have to do with the fact that the DVD itself is mostly concerned with double sticks, i.e. fighting with two of them...

its both what you said gagimilo, and what bttcanada@videotron.ca said.


i've always said when i saw this DVD i was surprised because i always thought of guro marc's double stick as his ''secrets''. this is an exceptional DVD in my opinion.


Francisco

[Crafty Dog]

Woof All:

Salty Dog, a Thai trained and certified Ajarn in Krabi Krabong by the Buddaiswan Institute of Thailand, brought KK to "DB Real Contact Stickfighting" in response to my introduction of BJJ (the Machado variant) in 1991 (forgive me the pride in noting that this was well before UFC 1). Top Dog promptly jumped on it when he saw my success with it.

Salty went to KK because at the time there was no BJJ in his home town of Santa Fe, NM and he wanted something to make TD and me pay heavily on the way to grappling.

It took him a number of years to figure it out, but when he did it was really formidable. Naturally we began to absorb it too.

Something I noticed in my exposure to the basics of KK at the Inosanto Academy was that the inner logic of some KK movements seems to conflict with the inner logic of Kali/FMA movements and I worked upon developing a synthesis.

This synthesis was, as Francisco (a.k.a. Frankfurter Dog) notes, rather secret for a few years, but then I changed my thinking in some regards (not all, there still are secrets ;-) ) and decided to release the basic framework.

In this context, kind words such as Gagmilio's (and Frankfurter's) are particularly gratifying, for I too regard this as a particularly important DVD in our library and all DBMA Instructors are responsible for its contents because it lays the essential foundation for DBMA concepts of range (we have 7 ranges) bilateralism (very important in our system) triangular footwork and the matrix of our triangles, the 1-2-1 correlation, quarter beats and triplets, and more. Most of all, it gives a simple, practical analytical framework readily used by a fighter while fighting.

In DBMA we believe in learning to handle the primal probabilities first. Simple as the PPs may be structurally, dealing with them for real in real time can be a real b*tch. With the material herein I have high confidence in the ability to help real people fight real well for real against real aggressive intent.

I remember the time Frankfurter came to me when he was planning to fight double stick for the first time. I suggested for his first fight to simply look for an "outside drive-by of the cavewoman combination". He did so and things went well for him.

Concerning the name. I thought to identify the blending of KK and Kali with its initials. While in the Filipino context, the initials KKK have an honorable historical meaning, in the American context the historical meaning is quite vile and so I needed something else.

The letter "K" is a homonym for the Spanish word "que" which means either "what" (when written with an accent) or "that". So "the 3 Ks" became "the Three Ques" which became "The Tri Ques". Completely the transmogrification into something Spanish/Filipino sound, I came up with "Los Triques" for our subsystem blending Kali-KK and released "Los Triques", which introduces uses KK kicks (like MT but done while running/in conjunction with weaponry strikes. When I decided to share the double stick version thereof, the "Los" simply became "Dos" (Spanish for two).

The Adventure continues,
Marc/Guro Crafty Dog

[gagimilo]

Yeah, since the first time I saw your videos I liked the wordplay quite a bit. Not just for the fact that it is entertaining, but also for the fact that it provides handy mnemonic device for the techniques/principles the terms are for.

Also, for me personally the first DB series came as a wake-up call before the UFC (simply cause I saw it first), in the sense of making me see the necessity for testing one's craft in an environment that is as uncooperative as possible, and also with some potential punishment for screwing up. I'd say that the whole DB thing did not have as much of impact, or in such a wide scope, as UFC, simply because it was not televised. In practice it means that the Panteher videos anly attracted the attention of those already interested in FMA, but not to many others aside from it.

[The Phalanx]

The terms and names for techniques in DBMA I am a very big fan of... Names such as the sawtooth, snaggle tooth, dog catcher, running dog, and other terms are to me much easier to memorize because of its simplicity... There are no fancy pronounciations that can give your tongue a work out... LOL

[Crafty Dog]

Concerning the comment about excessive slo mo: I think I know the fight in particular which triggers this comment. FWIW there are two reasons I gave the fight so much slo-mo:

1) In my experience, most people have a really hard time seeing what is going on with footwork-- it is the distance/zoning/angling between the two fighters-- and to best get what is going on need to see it really slowly; and

2) The slo-mo gives me enough time to talk :-) and describe what is going on.

[gagimilo]

Hmmm, point taken! It never occurred to me that it might have to do with your explaining the action...

[The Phalanx]

Yes Guro Crafty I agree... In one of the DVDs, I forgot what was the name, it was the one showing the Ilustrisimo Cross-Step... It had one of the guys on DVD talking about people wondering where all the footwork and techniques were in those fights... He then stated that if you slow down the fights on tape, you can see the techniques happen... But since when people are watching these fights in real time, it is often difficult to catch the techniques and footwork being performed...

[selfcritical]

Concerning the comment about excessive slo mo: I think I know the fight in particular which triggers this comment. FWIW there are two reasons I gave the fight so much slo-mo:

1) In my experience, most people have a really hard time seeing what is going on with footwork-- it is the distance/zoning/angling between the two fighters-- and to best get what is going on need to see it really slowly; and

2) The slo-mo gives me enough time to talk :-) and describe what is going on.

Really, only the LACK of commentary during the slo-mo on Kali Tudo bothered me. The awkward pauses where all you hear is low pitched groaning and impact.

[Crafty Dog]

I am always glad to get a better sense of how people react to our work so my thanks.

Just to be clear, you are discussing KT 1?