Mono
04-28-2006, 01:31 PM
Dear all of you...
I just wanted to post a Question about the "Datus of Modern Arnis" assigned by Remy Presas.
Just recentliy I stumbled over a Website and some Artikels wich I fould somewhat confusing.
As far as I know, there are the following People who have been assigned the Rank/Title of "Datu" by Remy Presas:
Datu Shishir Inocalla – (the first appointed Datu in the 1980s)
Datu Kelly S. Worden(in the 1980s)
Datu Ric "Bong" Jornales (of Arnis Sikaran) (in the 1980s),
Datu Dieter Knüttel (1996)
Datu Timothy J. Hartman (2000)
Datu David Hoffman (2000)
Then I came across the following Site:
http://www.aarkj.com/nava_chester.htm
where "Datu Michael Morton" is being metioned several Times...
Other refrences to Mr. Morton I found were on an Advertisement for a Videoseries:
Filipino martial Arts (Escrima, Arnis) is known for its fluid and powerful empty hand and weapons striking techniques and for its intricate system of locks, takedowns, and joint manipulations. Arnis is one of the oldest, most complete, most complex and devastating of the martial arts systems of the Philippine Islands. These combat systems are said to have started among Filipino warriors prior to the Spanish occupation. Learn in this DVD series the devastating Single stick, Double stick and the rarely seen empty hand System of Cuatro Puertas (Four Doors). Unlike the vast majority of Filipino systems being taught in seminars and via video media, Master Morton instructs in DETAIL close quarter self defense. Master Morton has Black Belts in Arnis, to include the title DATU from the late Grandmaster of Modern Arnis, Remy A. Presas. He also has Black Belts in Bushidokan Karate, Juijitsu, and has trained in Muy Thai in Bangkok, Thailand and also with Alberto Fererro in Brazilain Juijitsu. Master Morton is a retired police officer with years of practical street experience as well as a former infantry medic in the U.S. Army. This series is all GO and no SHOW. We know you’ll enjoy it.
Well, I was hoping someone could give me some further Information about this since I did not find any other record of him being a Modern Arnis Datu - is the Rank mybe from a different system or Teacher - I know Mr. Morton is closely connected to Modern Arnis but then, why is ther no other Information on thsi Subject?
The Second person I was curious about is Mr. Halford Jones - who is also using the Title of "Datu" (as can be seen on the following Link)
http://www.professorpresas.com/ArnisPics.htm
(5th Row of pictures)
I did not find any Information about where he got the Title from either - is it a "Modern Arnis" Title? Or is it from a different System?
I dont know many other FMA Systems that use the title of "Datu" so I am a little confused...
I hope someone can give me some more Information about these two people.
Thanks a lot!
Regards,
Mono
P.S. I hope no one gets this wrong, I am not trying to Blame anyone to use "false Titles" or anything like that! I do not know either of the two Men; I am only trying to get some further Information about this Issue!
I just wanted to post a Question about the "Datus of Modern Arnis" assigned by Remy Presas.
Just recentliy I stumbled over a Website and some Artikels wich I fould somewhat confusing.
As far as I know, there are the following People who have been assigned the Rank/Title of "Datu" by Remy Presas:
Datu Shishir Inocalla – (the first appointed Datu in the 1980s)
Datu Kelly S. Worden(in the 1980s)
Datu Ric "Bong" Jornales (of Arnis Sikaran) (in the 1980s),
Datu Dieter Knüttel (1996)
Datu Timothy J. Hartman (2000)
Datu David Hoffman (2000)
Then I came across the following Site:
http://www.aarkj.com/nava_chester.htm
where "Datu Michael Morton" is being metioned several Times...
Other refrences to Mr. Morton I found were on an Advertisement for a Videoseries:
Filipino martial Arts (Escrima, Arnis) is known for its fluid and powerful empty hand and weapons striking techniques and for its intricate system of locks, takedowns, and joint manipulations. Arnis is one of the oldest, most complete, most complex and devastating of the martial arts systems of the Philippine Islands. These combat systems are said to have started among Filipino warriors prior to the Spanish occupation. Learn in this DVD series the devastating Single stick, Double stick and the rarely seen empty hand System of Cuatro Puertas (Four Doors). Unlike the vast majority of Filipino systems being taught in seminars and via video media, Master Morton instructs in DETAIL close quarter self defense. Master Morton has Black Belts in Arnis, to include the title DATU from the late Grandmaster of Modern Arnis, Remy A. Presas. He also has Black Belts in Bushidokan Karate, Juijitsu, and has trained in Muy Thai in Bangkok, Thailand and also with Alberto Fererro in Brazilain Juijitsu. Master Morton is a retired police officer with years of practical street experience as well as a former infantry medic in the U.S. Army. This series is all GO and no SHOW. We know you’ll enjoy it.
Well, I was hoping someone could give me some further Information about this since I did not find any other record of him being a Modern Arnis Datu - is the Rank mybe from a different system or Teacher - I know Mr. Morton is closely connected to Modern Arnis but then, why is ther no other Information on thsi Subject?
The Second person I was curious about is Mr. Halford Jones - who is also using the Title of "Datu" (as can be seen on the following Link)
http://www.professorpresas.com/ArnisPics.htm
(5th Row of pictures)
I did not find any Information about where he got the Title from either - is it a "Modern Arnis" Title? Or is it from a different System?
I dont know many other FMA Systems that use the title of "Datu" so I am a little confused...
I hope someone can give me some more Information about these two people.
Thanks a lot!
Regards,
Mono
P.S. I hope no one gets this wrong, I am not trying to Blame anyone to use "false Titles" or anything like that! I do not know either of the two Men; I am only trying to get some further Information about this Issue!