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99medic
04-12-2006, 05:48 AM
Does anybody here have any experiences of using Kali against other styles of martial arts?

arnisador
04-12-2006, 10:58 AM
In training, yes; I don't think I've ever been attacked by a martial artist. It is often a bit of a mismatch of interests because FMAers tend to think in terms of having a weapon available, and most TKD players, say, aren't that interested in knife sparring. But I've sparred empty-hand with other martial artists. Sometimes the emphasis on stepping off the line surprises them. Sometimes a limb destruction comes as a big surprise to them. Sometimes I get tagged!

JohnJ
04-12-2006, 02:44 PM
From a weapons perspective, yes. I have gone against Kendo players. While they had exceptional timing and centerline coverage, I was able to close, tie the weapon and let off some power strikes and thrusts.

As far as E-H, it's hard to say that everything I did was FMA cause quite often techniques are similar from discipline to discipline. I spar to be effective in all ranges not to perfect a style.

99medic
04-13-2006, 05:33 AM
For me my experience was sparring with my cousin's friends that are training in MMA and also US Marines that I served with and now work with as a civillian. The first group was the MMA and the rules were open hand no fists. Which worked out great for me because as you all know we do heavy handed slaps. the whole thing lasted about 2 minutes with both of us on the mat and me choking him out with Dumog. The second was Marines and it seems like they are too linear and rigid but very good with grappling. when it came to knife fighting I made chicharon bulaklak with their bellies, (training blades of course). I don't mean to pump my self up but from what I have seen and experienced FMA is really effective against other martial arts.

DAMAG-INC
04-13-2006, 07:34 AM
I am curious and very interested in hooking up with some of the medeival/rennaisance weaponry practitioners like Amtgard or SCA and see what it's like to spar with them with my FMA single or double stick. I think it would be great. And fun too!

blindside
04-13-2006, 09:10 AM
I am curious and very interested in hooking up with some of the medeival/rennaisance weaponry practitioners like Amtgard or SCA and see what it's like to spar with them with my FMA single or double stick. I think it would be great. And fun too!

I think you would be better off looking up one of the historical/renaissance martial arts groups than trying the SCA, and from your groups approach I'm guessing you would HATE the Amtgard ruleset. You would be better of with a group like this:
http://www.thearma.org/

Lamont

JeffJ
04-14-2006, 12:19 AM
I've had a lot of experience in the SCA. You can get some good hard sparring there, but it's not worth the headache. Or the silly outfits. Or having to act respectful to complete jackasses.

Jeff

DAMAG-INC
04-14-2006, 05:24 AM
I've had a lot of experience in the SCA. You can get some good hard sparring there, but it's not worth the headache. Or the silly outfits. Or having to act respectful to complete jackasses.

Jeff
I wonder if they'd be willing to spar with less armor. Just protective gloves and helmets/fencing masks, and raw rattan.

JeffJ
04-14-2006, 08:39 AM
Never did that with them, did some empty handed sparring with a few. The ones I did that with didn't know how to take a hit without the armor.

Jeff

DAMAG-INC
04-14-2006, 06:40 PM
Never did that with them, did some empty handed sparring with a few. The ones I did that with didn't know how to take a hit without the armor.

Jeff

Hmmm I wonder if they'd be willing to settle for wearing a WEKAF vest then. Haha.

Daniel

mosplat
04-16-2006, 01:53 PM
i've only soft sparred kali against other empty hand martial arts/artists.

after sparring, plus additional exposure to kali with a trial class with my guro:

my brother stopped with wing chun to come train kali with my guro and me.
and my best friend is soon stopping with muay thai and mma to do the same.

interesting results?:)

but hey, cross training can be a most beneficial thing.
i came to kali from shaolin kung fu.
i wonder if many artists arrive at kali after other training?

arnisador
04-16-2006, 08:11 PM
I find WIng Chun helps my arnis. But, arnis seems to get there more quickly! It's not only effective, it's relatively eaasy to learn the basics.

eskrimador
10-14-2006, 11:03 AM
I`m a practitioner of FMA, frankly speaking it is not just easy to say we can beat clearly other weaponed arts. I`m practising also kenjutsu and kobudo, and I`ve tried to have a good match with a guy using bokuto and another guy with Bo without wearing any armour.

Based on my experience Bo and Bokuto are in advantage with regards to distance and power. The advantage of stick is speed. But with regards to manuevering its defend on the user of the said weapons. Using 27 inches stick either single or double, covering the distance is imporatnt to deal with this kind of weapons. And I think, having experience and skills using these weapons (bokuto and bo) is important, so we can play with them.

Got also an experience, sparring with Indian guy of Kaliripahyit stick. I can say our stick fighting techniques are better in terms of experiences in sparring. Better we try to sparr in Chambara, in these competition there using soft padded weapons whether its eskrima, bokuto, jo, bo, nunchaku. Its really awesome.

I know also, those European guys who are trying to revive their medieval weapon arts are inviting FMA figthers to have a friendly match out there. Hope some FMA guy/s will accept the invitation. If I have a chance, I`ll try. Its good to be an adventurous swordsman.