View Full Version : Unique Training Blade for sale
eskrimakaliarnis.com
02-23-2009, 03:24 AM
Hi All.
I was very fortunate to be given a training blade to sell by my Master, GM Yuli Romo. It is a type of pira sword made by hand by GM Yuli. It has a 21" blade and the total length is 30".
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/PIC_0041.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/pira4.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/pira1.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/pira3.jpg
As you can see the aluminium has been given a painstakingly buffed finish. This really helps to make the training sword look like the real thing. It also helps stop finger prints getting on it as opposed to other aluminum weapons that use the mirror finish. The wood for the pommel is "Barayong" and I must admit I don't know much about it apart from it being a very rare wood now in the Philippines.
A similar Pira can be seen in this picture on the right.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Basih_weapons.jpg
I thought I'd offer it to FMA talk members before sticking it on Ebay, If you are interested please PM me an offer. I will ship it worldwide by Airmail.
I am currently editing the videos of GM with the sword and will add to this thread when I'm finished.
Simon.
eskrimakaliarnis.com
04-03-2009, 03:15 AM
Sold last week.
eskrimakaliarnis.com
04-18-2009, 02:03 AM
That one went in the end and I have one last one with the Barayong, which I received today. Master Yuli also dropped off some training blades for one of my customers in Greece. I though I'd share the design with you incase anybody likes it.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/barung.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/barung2.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/barung1.jpg
:)
sjansen
04-19-2009, 01:42 AM
I like how you put the real blades in your post to stop all the naysayers from posting.
You always have the best stuff Simon and can always back it up.
Brian R. VanCise
04-19-2009, 10:13 AM
Simon's training equipment is first rate. No doubt about that!
eskrimakaliarnis.com
04-19-2009, 11:35 AM
Thanks guys - I'm just fortunate to have a good teacher so can't take all the credit :)
eskrimakaliarnis.com
04-24-2009, 02:00 AM
I've just stuck 2 of these Barungs on ebay for $124.99 (pair) with shipping included. If anybody contacts me through FMA Talk they're yours for $104.99 ;)
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/barungs_2.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/?action=view¤t=barungs_2.jpg)
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/barung.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/?action=view¤t=barung.jpg) http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/barung1.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/?action=view¤t=barung1.jpg)
Total Length = 21"
Blade Length = 14.5"
Total Weight = 300g (Approx)
Wood Used - Sampalok (Citrus Wood)
sjansen
04-25-2009, 01:44 AM
Please let me know when you get some other blades in Simon. I would love to have them. I'm not in the market for a barong, but would love something different (longer). Also, let me know when you get some more heavy sticks in. You have the best sticks I have ever used. I still haven't destroyed your sticks yet and it's been two months. Most have lasted me less than a month.
eskrimakaliarnis.com
04-25-2009, 01:54 AM
Thanks Scott, will do.
I am taking delivery of 300 Tumalin Rattan on Monday / Tuesday.
It was meant to be last Wednesday, then today....such are the woes of doing business in the Philippines LOL
Actually, we've had some unseasonal storms this week so that hasn't helped.
I will drop you a line when I have them in stock for sure.
Simon.
Brian R. VanCise
04-25-2009, 08:43 AM
Hey Simon,
If Grand Master Yuli can make training Talibongs like these I think you will find a market for them. I know I would want a couple. :)
eskrimakaliarnis.com
04-25-2009, 09:09 AM
Thanks Brian, I'll bear it in mind. He usually doesn't make weapons with guards on so I'm not sure. It's usually a case of being surprised by a new creation when we see him!
These are some that I get made from another supplier:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/newswords.jpg
I sold all 6 I had made of the two designs the first day I got them back from the Panaday. I am able to re-order though.
eskrimakaliarnis.com
06-17-2009, 09:27 AM
A new design from GM Yuli:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/newpira-1.jpg
Labantayo
06-26-2009, 02:46 PM
Hey Simon,
If Grand Master Yuli can make training Talibongs like these I think you will find a market for them. I know I would want a couple. :)
Mr. VanCise,
May I ask as to where you purchased that Talibong? Is that one of Nene Tortals?
Thanks,
Brian R. VanCise
06-26-2009, 05:35 PM
Hi there,
Yes I am getting all my Talibong's through the Tortal family. http://www.fmatalk.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
eskrimakaliarnis.com
07-19-2009, 08:04 AM
Latest creation in Kamagong:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/nilantip1.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/?action=view¤t=nilantip1.jpg)
The "Nilantip", a GM Yuli design that I think has come out particularly well.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/nilantip3.jpg (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/?action=view¤t=nilantip3.jpg)
eskrimakaliarnis.com
07-24-2009, 01:24 AM
More Aluminum Trainers from Master Yuli:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/newsans1.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/newsans2.jpg
And 14" Tarak Pisaw
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/newtarak.jpg
All available for order from your friendly internet retailer :)
eskrimakaliarnis.com
08-01-2009, 08:00 AM
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb74/bid4bargains/woodkampilan-2.jpg
Ash Wood Kampilan
R. Mike Snow
08-02-2009, 01:52 AM
Mr. VanCise,
May I ask as to where you purchased that Talibong? Is that one of Nene Tortals?
Thanks,
No Bro, it's not from GT Nene, it is a great replica from Luzon though. I will ask John to post a photo of the Negros blade that GT and I donated to the PIG. GT has to walk to the other side of the mountain near his home to get the Tortal blades made and then ship them to Manila. That's why their so hard to get. Unfortunately, know one else in the family knows exactly what a Talibong and Ginunting should really look and feel like.
i have shown GT the unsatisfactory stuff that is floating around, so he is promised to supply John, Pendakar and I with some authentic blades from Negros and even the old style from Panay if the his old friend there is still with us. GT's not even home yet and I am drooling over them already. I have already purchased another tree, so we should be good to go as soon as GT returns. I promise that you will NOT be disappointed Bro... We will have "O", "T" & "M" styles of each blade too. If you want left-handed please let me know.
Thanks, Mike
Brian R. VanCise
08-02-2009, 08:46 AM
Well Mike,
It is directly from Grand Tuhon Tortal's son Jerson Tortal Jr. and the panday that he personally uses. So I think it qualifies as a real Filipino blade and not a replica. http://www.fmatalk.com/images/icons/icon6.gif That I would think makes it authentic! After all he is a Dekiti Tirsia Siradas Grand Master and the son of the Grand Tuhon! So the Tortal name is in fact part and parcel with the training blade and live blade that I acquired. Eh! However, the Grand Tuhon and I will talk about this when he visits my house and training hall this September!
Brian R. VanCise
08-02-2009, 09:30 AM
Sorry Simon for being off topic as this thread is about your unique training blades from GM Yuli!
R. Mike Snow
08-02-2009, 07:35 PM
Sorry Bro, but that's not really so. Real Talibongs and Ginuntings are only made in Negros and Panay. For instance, real Barungs( a barong is a shirt) are only made in Sulu, Baslilan, Mindanao and Sabah. Real Pira are only made in Basilan, etc.
Brian R. VanCise
08-02-2009, 09:28 PM
Sorry Bro, but that's not really so. Real Talibongs and Ginuntings are only made in Negros and Panay. For instance, real Barungs( a barong is a shirt) are only made in Sulu, Baslilan, Mindanao and Sabah. Real Pira are only made in Basilan, etc.
I understand you are going into the blade selling business and I am not in the business per se. meaning I am not selling Talibong's, ginunting's, etc. Instead I collect them through various sources. We should in other words not be at odd's over this. Speaking of this I tried to buy Talibong's through you & an associate of yours but you guy's did not have any at the time. So I went through Jerson Tortal Jr. not wanting to bother the Grand Tuhon.
Anyway's when the Grand Tuhon is up here he and I will talk over this. http://www.fmatalk.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
Brian R. VanCise
08-02-2009, 09:33 PM
Now back to Simon's training blades which of course are excellent. I have a couple of panabas trainer's which simply are the best ones in my collection! http://www.fmatalk.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
R. Mike Snow
08-03-2009, 03:30 AM
Hello Brian,
I am not in the blade business and have no desire to be, and I haven not ever made a dime from what I have received and sold in the past. All the proceeds go to GT Nene and his tour. So obviously you do not understand Bro. What everyone needs to realize about my self is, I am out to preserve a system and really do not care if I make people mad or do and say things they do not like. So far, GT Nene has a totally dedicated inner circle that wishes to do the same and gives a lot of their time and effort to over people asking nothing in return. I personally collect authentic blades and generously let people barrow them, hold them, study them and even cut with them. So that they can learn what it is like to use the real deal and why we cannot twirl them like a baston. In an attempt to put an end to the inaccuracies of the ginunting twirlers on YouTube and other places. I share, I do it for everyone, not just my self. As well as how the sustem evoleved the way it did because of the extreme weight of the weapons used. I think that the associate you are speaking of might have one left, again, might, I am unsure. So you went elsewhere and got a replica that was made in Luzon somewhere. It is a good replica too. Better than the others offer for sure. But I refuse to mislead anyone to tell them that they are authentic, when infact they are not. I do not and will not mislead people. I apologized publicly for accidentally mistating it in an earlier post about the Talibongs. After a second look, it was obvious. I get people constantly that dispespectfully think that after training with GT Nene once or twice, that they are able to go over my head if they do not get what they want immediately, think that they are experts in Ilonggo culture and Sandata and DTS. If this is the type of cooperation, patience and respect that my colgueges and I will recieve after close to a decade of hard work and self-sacrifice that I and my colegues have contributed. Then I will be more than happy to refund your $100 immediately an remove you from the schedule, permanently. I have already spoken to GT about getting you an authentic blade since you did get exactly what you paid someone else. But you seen to be far more interested in being the "Talibong Man", trying to get something that is very difficult to come by and out doing the people that are loyal to GT. At the same time, refusing to admit you have in deed purchadsed blade not from Negros or Panay. Again, I even commented on how nice of a replic you received. I wish I could get authentic Ilonggo Sandata for the price you paid, but it just is not possible. Unless you fly to Negros and walk through the mountains your self. Because the Panday's that do it right are hard to find. Plus you have to know who's palms to grease so that the blades do not get confiscated by the LEO's or Customs people in the region. It's not like Manila, where you just ship and forget. Plus, you have to know what a real Ginunting or Talibong feels like too. Good Luck!
Brian R. VanCise
08-03-2009, 11:26 AM
Mike,
Check you pm box as this thread directly belongs and is about Simon's merchandise.
Let's move back on topic! http://www.fmatalk.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
arnisador
08-03-2009, 12:37 PM
Yes, the other discussion should be moved to another thread.
-Arnisador
-FMAT Admin
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