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arnisador
03-22-2006, 02:04 AM
States allow deadly self-defense (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-03-20-deadly-defense_x.htm)

This may not be entirely on-topic, but today's USA Today had a front-page story on changing self-defense laws:


A year after Florida became the first state to allow citizens to use deadly force against muggers, carjackers and other attackers, the idea is spreading.

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Dubbed "Stand Your Ground" bills by supporters such as the National Rifle Association, the measures generally grant immunity from prosecution and lawsuits to those who use deadly force to combat any unlawful entry or attack.

[...]

The NRA and other supporters say the bills are needed in many states that require people under attack in public places to withdraw from the situation, rather than retaliate, unless they can show their lives are in danger. "For someone attacked by criminals to be victimized a second time by a second-guessing legal system is wrong," the NRA's Wayne LaPierre says.
Critics, including the Brady Campaign To Prevent Gun Violence, say the bills encourage vigilantism and would make it more likely that confrontations would turn deadly. Zach Ragbourn of the Brady group says the proposals "are more accurately called 'Shoot First' laws...


(Emphasis added.) The story focuses on guns, presumably thinking of cases like this (http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29764) recent concealed-carry case in NM; but it strikes me that it is very relevant for those who carry knives. As things stand, if you carry a knife and are attacked by an unarmed mugger, you may run a legal risk if you respond with your knife. Under these laws, it seems as though using (potentially) deadly force against even a non-lethal but unlawful attack would be justified.

arnisador
03-27-2006, 02:35 AM
There is a discussion on MartialTalk (http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32159) about such a change in Indiana.

arnisador
11-09-2006, 09:52 PM
Ex-boxing champ surprises muggers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/suffolk/6133034.stm)


Three muggers got a nasty surprise when they tried to rob a 67-year-old former British boxing champion.

George Bayliss, of Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, who won a an amateur light-middleweight title 40 years ago, was attacked near his home on Tuesday.


When the gang tried to mug him, Mr Bayliss reacted by throwing a left hook and the gang ran off.


"They weren't up to much as opponents - I've faced much tougher people in the ring," said Mr Bayliss.


"They picked on the wrong man. I'm a southpaw, so I hit the ring leader on the chin with a left hook and all three ran off.

Brian R. VanCise
11-09-2006, 10:05 PM
Ex-boxing champ surprises muggers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/suffolk/6133034.stm)

Good for him!http://www.fmatalk.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

Balintawak
11-09-2006, 10:09 PM
There is a discussion on MartialTalk (http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32159) about such a change in Indiana.


I believe it has also changed as of 10/01/06 for Michigan as well.

Matt Lamphere
11-10-2006, 11:52 AM
Here is the link to the legal details of the Michigan law change.

http://www.michiganvotes.org/2005-HB-5143

It's encouraging to know that you might have a little more of the law on your side should you have the unfortunate occurance to have to use deadly force to protect yourself ... in Michigan (in your private residence), at any rate.

However, I still suspect that you will get put through the proverbial "ringer" should such a thing happen.