Pacquaio vs Hoya

[daryl510]

Hello FMA Talk! Pacman vs Goldenboy Dec. 6 - What are your predictions?
(im shocked to see no thread about this)


Lets keep this thread going even after the results.

[silat1]

I have a 100.00 bet on this fight.. Pacman knocks out Goldenboy so hard that he will think he is riding the rainbow to the pot of gold that he sees while on his back.. Problem is the gold he sees is going to be the lights on the ceiling.

[el maldito de cebu]

I hope that he is in good condition and that he is in good shape. I hope he could be in his best because it is not in his weight division hope he is comfortable on it. he could surely knock out golden boy hopefully

[Phil Mar Nadela]

I don't know much about their history but my moneys on Pacquaio, then again I am bias. Arrg... I wish i could watch the fight but i don't have pay per view!

I guess i can watch in youtube the next day.

[Dawn]

I'm predicting the roads will be empty on Sunday morning here in the P.I. like it was a national holiday hahaha and of course I'm rooting for the PacMan!

I'm not an avid fan of boxing so I also don't know their history very much, but this is the one guy who can put the whole nation on halt and stop the political squabbling for a while. Go Manny!

[silat1]

After seeing the news clip that ABS-CBN did on Manny while training in the states this weekend, I wonder how the food that I saw him eating could possibly hamper his movement this weekend.. His meal that I saw consisted of Rice and beef with so much oil, it looked like it could have slid off of the plate if it wasn't on the table.. Hopefully his metabolism will digest this meal fast enough for him to be able to move effortlessly this weekend.. The 100.00 bet that I have on him winning the fight would make a good gift to Bantay Bata for christmas..






I hope that he is in good condition and that he is in good shape. I hope he could be in his best because it is not in his weight division hope he is comfortable on it. he could surely knock out golden boy hopefully

[Robert Klampfer]

Hello FMA Talk! Pacman vs Goldenboy Dec. 6 - What are your predictions?

If Manny looks as good as he did against Diaz, De La Hoya is in trouble. I saw a different Pacman during that fight - disciplined, technical, stronger. I think the pundits are making too much noise over the weight class. I'm looking for a knockout (not TKO) by Pacman.

Robert

[Carol]

I don't think I'll be able to catch the fight :(

But I will be seriously rooting for Pac-Man!

[silat1]

Since I am a day ahead of you people who live in the states, I will keep you informed as to wins the fight after you place your bets with me.. No problem as I need funds for christmas and be willing to tell you the winner of the fight on sunday..:schild24::EvilGrin:



I don't think I'll be able to catch the fight :(

But I will be seriously rooting for Pac-Man!

[Carol]

I better bet on De La Hoya then. I have a notorious habit of picking the loser whenever I put money on a sports bet. ;)

[Robert Klampfer]

Since I am a day ahead of you people who live in the states, I will keep you informed as to wins the fight after you place your bets with me.. No problem as I need funds for christmas and be willing to tell you the winner of the fight on sunday.

:confused: Um, the fight will be live on pay-per-view... :wink2:

[Robert Klampfer]

I'm predicting the roads will be empty on Sunday morning here in the P.I. like it was a national holiday hahaha and of course I'm rooting for the PacMan!

I'm not an avid fan of boxing so I also don't know their history very much, but this is the one guy who can put the whole nation on halt and stop the political squabbling for a while. Go Manny!

Ironically, I wasn't much of a boxing fan either until I started into Balintawak. Since then, I've become quite a fan. There are several Filipino boxers who are quite good. Pacquaio gets practically all of the attention since he's currently one of the best pound-for-pound fighters in the world.

He just needs to stick to boxing and stay out of politics (and singing!).

Robert

[Dawn]

He just needs to stick to boxing and stay out of politics (and singing!).



Robert, the politics it's possible to stay out of, but getting a Pinoy to stop singing is a lost cause.. :o

[Carol]

:confused: Um, the fight will be live on pay-per-view... :wink2:

Aww shucks...and I was enjoying the illusory concept of getting the fight from ...the beyond.... ;) :D

[silat1]

This was a stab at sarcasm.. We are seeing the fight Sunday morning and yes it is on pay perview.





:confused: Um, the fight will be live on pay-per-view... :wink2:

[Robert Klampfer]

Robert, the politics it's possible to stay out of, but getting a Pinoy to stop singing is a lost cause.. :o

Ha! Very good point! What was I thinking...?

Robert

[Robert Klampfer]

This was a stab at sarcasm.. We are seeing the fight Sunday morning and yes it is on pay perview.
I'm with you. I was goofing, too! :cheers:
Robert

[Carol]

I HOPE this fight is on YouTube somewhere. I hear Pac-Man took De La Hoya to class!!

[Robert Klampfer]

I hear Pac-Man took De La Hoya to class!!

Yes, he did! I think he could have finished the fight two rounds earlier than he did but, for some reason (advice from his corner?) he didn't press it. It was like watching the Diaz fight all over again.

Now I'm looking forward to Pacquaio v. Hatton... :boxing_sm

Robert

[yomitche]

It was a good fight to watch, but so one-sided it was a bit disappointing, if that makes any sense. I was rooting for Pac, but still like de la Hoya and hoped he would have made a better go of it. I didn't even see de la Hoya throw a punch the latter half of the seventh round. He made an effort in the eighth to try and stay in the fight (it seemed), but appeared to be so completely outclassed at that point, that it was too little, too late.

The fight stats were ridiculously lopsided! I'm not really sure why de la Hoya agreed to this fight (other than a true champion has to be beaten into retirement, it seems, rather than graciously and precipitously quiting), but wouldn't be surprised if pride and money motivated him more than it should have. I hope he completely quits now, because anything else would just be silly.

Anyway, props to Pac for a brilliant win!

[Robert Klampfer]

I'm not really sure why de la Hoya agreed to this fight... wouldn't be surprised if pride and money motivated him more than it should have

No doubt it was a measure of both. De La Hoya was the last hope of the Mexican fighters against Pacquiao (pride), De La Hoya was angry with Pacquiao over a contract dispute between Golden Boy Productions and Top Rank (pride and money), Golden Boy Productions was behind the fight (lots of money), and even the loser walked away with millions in their pocket (even more money).

Robert

[PG Michael B]

And then DeLapoyo ran into a buzz saw....he got pummeled...Manny landed 288 punches to DH 55..a nightmare night for the Goldenboy and a trip to the hospital for his trouble. Age hurt Oscar but speed killed him.

[Robert Klampfer]

And then DeLapoyo ran into a buzz saw...
De La Pollo... :laugh: I don't know about the buzz saw but, he did run into a lot of straight lefts!

Funny on one hand but, on the other it's really sad that a fighter of his stature went out like that. Sure, the only way he could win was by knockout and it was highly unlikely that he would get it but, there was the chance. He hadn't even been knocked down. Compare that to Erik Morales who had taken a much more severe beating and been knocked down twice in the same round before the fight was stopped.

This was the second high profile match I've seen recently where I thought the corner was too hasty in throwing in the towel -- Paul Malignaggi's corner threw in the towel during his fight with Ricky Hatton. (Hatton v. Pacquaio. Mmmmm... :mouth_wat) I really hope this isn't going to become a trend among boxing trainers. It's one thing if the ref stops the fight; very much another if it's your own corner.

Robert

[PG Michael B]

Pacman in my opinion wil break down Hatton quicker than he did Oscar. Hatton is a plodder..comes moving in behind a half ass jab with very limited lateral movement. Pacman throws punches in bunches all with bad intent. If this fight comes off I would go with Pacman in a 7 round ass whooping of epic proportion.

I want Flloyd jr. to dust his over rated ass off and come get some pacman adobo. personally speaking I think Pacman would bust his ass up quick as snot on a door knob. My only cocnern for Manny is that he doesn't go messing around at 147 and start trying to battle young bad asses like Margarito or Paul Williams.

[Robert Klampfer]

Pacman in my opinion wil break down Hatton quicker than he did Oscar. Hatton is a plodder..comes moving in behind a half ass jab with very limited lateral movement. Pacman throws punches in bunches all with bad intent. If this fight comes off I would go with Pacman in a 7 round ass whooping of epic proportion.

Mm, I'm not sure about that. Hatton is as tough as woodpecker lips and he hits hard. My favor would be to Pacquaio but, I'm thinking it would go the the cards. In any event, I'd really like to see that match.


I want Flloyd jr. to dust his over rated ass off and come get some pacman adobo. personally speaking I think Pacman would bust his ass up quick as snot on a door knob.

I don't know that I'd be too interested in that fight. I'd watch it but, I don't think my heart would quite be in it. Mayweather is too likely to prance around the ring and take things to the cards, like he did with De La Hoya (whom I think should have won that one...). I'd be concerned with him getting the sympathy decision.


My only cocnern for Manny is that he doesn't go messing around at 147 and start trying to battle young bad asses like Margarito or Paul Williams.

He's already said that he's not interested in going to 147. In fact, he said he's going back down in weight.

Robert

[eskrimakaliarnis.com]

As I remarked to my wife on Sunday,


Is it called the dream match because De La Hoya is asleep?

I hope that the Hatton v Pacman fight comes off. I also think that Pac-Man will win as his footwork and hand-speed are amazing. Can't see Hatton quitting on his stool somehow and at least he will go to fight.

It was horrible watching the replay on Filipino TV. First we already knew who won as my wife had text messages from various people. Then they played the fight but took ten-minute breaks inbetween each 3-minute round. And when the action did resume for the first 1.5 minutes they played the sponsors graphics over the last 1/4 of the screen so it was impossible to watch Pac-Man's feet :(

[pguinto]

manny's stick training:
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3728362&categoryId=2491554&n8pe6c=1

[gagimilo]

I gotta agree that Oscar was waaay behind the speed curve in this match, and also add Manny's superb use of footwork and positioning during the fight and the outcome was quite clear. Also, another thing that I have noticed is that Manny's use of non-telegraphing striking was a textbook example of what it should be. I mean, how many people have you seen previously fire those crosses without first preparing for them via combos or anything? Just straight BAM on the spot...

[silat1]

Dela Hoya's actions reminded me of the fight between Sugar Ray Leonard and Roberto Duran. Roberto said "No Mas" after the beating he took from Sugar Ray, and it appeared to me that Dela Hoya's corner pretty much was following the trend of saying no more when they are getting their tails blasted.