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arnisador
09-07-2008, 02:59 PM
Welcome to the Senkotiros forum! This forum is for the discussion of the art of Senkotiros (http://senkotiros.org/).

arnisador
09-07-2008, 03:00 PM
Please, comment on the forum description:


This forum is for the discussion of the art of Senkotiros or "five (angles of) attack". It was introduced in the United States by Max Pallen.

We would be happy to put some more compelling text up there!

Brock
09-07-2008, 09:28 PM
Maybe something like this:


Senkotiros means “Five Shots” or “Five Strikes”. Using the basics of the system taught to him by his grandfather and a wealth of knowledge gained through years of study of various Philippine martial arts, Grandmaster Max Pallen Sr. resurrected the style in the year 2000. The style is free form and spontaneous in its response to attack rather than having a set patterns of responses.

I pretty much just banged that out off the top of my head, so I'm open to suggestions and/or edits.

Brock
09-08-2008, 08:21 AM
Here's a forum description from GM Pallen:

Senkotiros means "five strikes" based on angles of attacks, defensive shielding, minimizing movements and develops sensitivity. When baston or stick as extension of the hand in training, the hand evolves closer to the body and develops empty hand close quarter fighting skills. Mastery of the solo baston or single stick are based on FMA bladed weapon concepts and of course sikad ( kick) are included.

5tirosCamarin
09-08-2008, 08:46 AM
Sweet!!! We have a Senkotiros section now!!! Hey, now we have the same avatar. But yours is bigger and more legible...

Brian R. VanCise
09-08-2008, 09:03 AM
Hey guy's congratulations on the Senkotiros section. Now we can add video and discuss what makes this system great! :biggrinbo

arnisador
09-08-2008, 09:58 AM
How's this rephrasing:

Senkotiros means "five strikes" and is based on angles of attack, defensive shielding, minimizing movements, and sensitivity. With the stick as extension of the hand in training, the practitioner evolves and develops empty hand close quarter fighting skills. The single stick techniques are based on Filipino bladed weapon concepts; sikad (kicks) are also included.

Brock
09-08-2008, 05:03 PM
Looks good to me!

arnisador
09-08-2008, 09:04 PM
Any other comments?

firetrapper
09-09-2008, 05:53 AM
I've never seen this system before, it looks good is anyone teaching it in the uk?

silat1
09-09-2008, 08:36 AM
Sinko Tiros is a system from the central and northern Luzon areas also.. It is primarily a single stick method, although some systems use the sinawali or two stick methods with its training also.. Majority of the sinko tiros I have seen in the mountainous parts of central Luzon are done with double sticks..

I haven't seen this version of sinko tiros, but have heard good things about it..

Brock
09-10-2008, 01:21 AM
I've never seen this system before, it looks good is anyone teaching it in the uk?

Not as far as I know, but I have been contacted by a someone from the UK who is interested in becoming an instructor.

USKS1
09-10-2008, 03:02 PM
Sinko Tiros is a system from the central and northern Luzon areas also.. It is primarily a single stick method, although some systems use the sinawali or two stick methods with its training also.. Majority of the sinko tiros I have seen in the mountainous parts of central Luzon are done with double sticks..

I haven't seen this version of sinko tiros, but have heard good things about it..

Hello Silat 1,

There are other systems who use the term cinco tiros, sinko tiros, etc to describe their system or a subsystem within their art.

Senkotiros is the spelling G.M. Pallen uses which is the proper usage or spelling used in the Bicol region. G.M. Pallen was born in the Bicol and this is reflected in the way we spell Senkotiros.

The name as mentioned before breaks down to 5 strikes. G.M. Pallen took his many years of experience in the FMA and added and deleted what he felt was necessary till he had developed his "expression". The art went by many names over the years, but as Guro Brock mentioned before in the year 2000 G.M. Pallen revived the name "Senkotiros" which was IIRC the name his Grandfather used to describe the FMA he taught G.M. Pallen when he was a boy.

You will see Cinco, Sinko, Singko, etc.... But when it is spelled Senkotiros it is representing G.M. Pallen's style.

Hope that helps.

Dean.

USKS1
09-10-2008, 03:17 PM
Any other comments?

Senkotiros has been described as a "free flow" system of Arnis. This is due to the nature of the training and development of what G.M. Pallen calls the "Gumon".

"Gumon" is a freestyle light sparring method using logical and efficient striking and shielding defenses & drilling to develop spontaneous responses to attacks. Over time the practitioner develops the ability to freestyle and attack and defend spontaneously based upon the situation.

You could compare the progression to the way boxing is taught in a good gym.
- Learn to strike
- Learn to defend
- Learn what defenses work best against what strikes
- Learn to counter the defenses
- Drill the skills at a manageable pace to develop your responses
- Isolation sparring utilizing specific tools & strategies
- Freestyle boxing or sparring

The art is a complete art utilizing solo baston, doble baston, daga, espada y daga & mano mano. The weapon skills that are learned and developed are taught to be translated to empty hands as the skill level of the practitioner increases.

I think one of the things that develops the spontanaety is the ability to break patterns or "tapi tapi" drilling and get into the free flow.

Hope this helps

Dean.

Shaun
09-13-2008, 05:00 PM
Great to see another excellent system being represented at FMA Talk.
Welcome

arnisador
07-22-2009, 11:43 AM
We need more posters here!

arnisador
04-28-2010, 10:02 PM
We haven't had a post here in 6 weeks--is anything new in the world of Senkotiros?

NJMMADude
05-04-2010, 09:39 AM
Arnisador,

I don't know of anything new, and I am not a consistent student of Senkotiros at this time. However I have trained in the system and I feel that it is a great system. I had the pleasure of training with Grandmaster Pallen at a 2-day seminar that he did which I really enjoyed. I also had the opportunity to train with Tuhan Mike McFarland in Carney's Point, NJ and at the seminar with Guro Jason Burlingame and Guro Brock (who posts here) and all of them were great teachers (very patient with someone who was not oriented to the system). I wanted to mention these gentlemen for anyone who may come across this thread and has the opportunity to train with any of them. It's a good opportunity.

Brock
05-06-2010, 12:01 AM
Aww... thanks... I just do what Grandmaster did for me when I started because lets face it without beginners our art dies.