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Bob Hubbard
01-16-2006, 12:37 PM
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MTMAE Entries:
Pekiti-Tirsia (http://www.martialtalk.net/wiki/index.php/Pekiti-Tirsia_Kali)
Leo Tortal Gaje, Jr. (http://www.martialtalk.net/wiki/index.php/Leo_T_Gaje_Jr)

arnisador
01-16-2006, 01:52 PM
We could probably use Jerson Tortal and Dekiti Tirsia Siradas pages too!

wes tasker
01-17-2006, 10:56 AM
Mr. Hubbard-

I do appreciate your work on the encyclopedia, and I would just like to mention that the link titled "Pekiti Tirsia International" in Grand Tuhon Gaje's entry actually goes to the European branch of Grand Tuhon Gaje's organization, headed up by Guro Uli Wiedle. The web address for Pekiti Tirsia International (headed by Tuhon Guro William McGrath) is www.pekiti.com (http://www.pekiti.com). I just thought this should be brought to your attention as it may cause some confusion. Thank you again for all your work.

-wes tasker

arnisador
03-08-2006, 12:38 PM
A Wikipedia entry has recently been added for Erwin Ballarta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Ballarta) of Pekiti Tirsia.

equilibrium
04-19-2007, 12:28 PM
I don't have time to put this into the wiki system, but the OFFICIAL web site for Grand Tuhon Gaje for the USA is http://www.pt-go.com

The pekiti tirsia international group, when was the last time he did a seminar associated them? Decades? I think if they had relationships with him it is history and not of the here and now. So links about him should be a footnote and not the main attraction.

lhommedieu
04-19-2007, 07:28 PM
The pekiti tirsia international group, when was the last time he did a seminar associated them? Decades? I think if they had relationships with him it is history and not of the here and now. So links about him should be a footnote and not the main attraction.

I think you misunderstand the point that Wes Tasker made. The link labelled "Pekiti Tirsia International" on the "Leo Tortal Gaje, Jr." page incorrectly takes you to Grand Tuhon Gaje's Pekiti-Tirsia Kali Europe Organization, headed by Uli Weidle.

No link exists to Tuhon William McGrath's Pekiti Tirsia International organization on either page of the MartialTalk Wikipedia, despite Wes' well-intentioned attempt at clarification made over a year ago.

Best,

Steve Lamade

arnisador
06-11-2007, 04:35 PM
It's wonderful seeing all this activity in this forum! Please let us know if we can help--by renaming the forum, creating subforums, moving posts around or sticking informative posts, giving someone mod. powers for this forum to handle routine administrative tasks, etc. We want you to have a great experience at FMATalk!

-Arnisador
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arnisador
07-18-2007, 11:49 PM
The Wikipedia entry for the art is here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pekiti_Tirsia_Kali).