Carlito Lanada

[Sheldon Bedell]

Can anyone give me some background on this gentelman and his system?

[arnisador]

A brief mention here (http://fmatalk.com/showthread.php?p=1620#post1620).

[Sheldon Bedell]

Can anyone add some background on the gentelman and what his system looks like or what it consists of

[kuntawguro]

GM Carlito Lanada is the head of the Maharlika Kuntaw, Kuntaw ng Pilipinas and the International Kuntaw Federation. There is a history of the man at Kuntaw.org and at Kuntaw.com.
He was one of the primary founders of the organization of the Martial arts in the Philippines under the Philippine Karate Association. The man is very fit and knowledgable.

[seibukan]

GM Carlito Lanada is the head of the Maharlika Kuntaw, Kuntaw ng Pilipinas and the International Kuntaw Federation. There is a history of the man at Kuntaw.org and at Kuntaw.com.
He was one of the primary founders of the organization of the Martial arts in the Philippines under the Philippine Karate Association. The man is very fit and knowledgable.

Is the "Philippine Karate Association" the same org as the "Karate Association of the Philippines"? If so and if anybody is interested, I have access to the original copy of the Constitution and Bylaws for that org (and perhaps some of it's other documents) and would be happy to post them.

[silat1]

From my understanding with some of my instructors in the Philippines, the Philippine Karate Association is now defunct and has been for a while.. I was a member of this organization and during the times of Marcos, all of our certificates were registered with the PKA and the Security exchange commission... Some of my old certifications back then were chopped with the stamp of the security exchange commission and our numbers were registered with both organizations..

Carlito Lanada was the president of the PKA for a while during this time,so most of the instructors under his lineage were registered with these organizations.

Bill

[kuntawguro]

From my understanding with some of my instructors in the Philippines, the Philippine Karate Association is now defunct and has been for a while.. I was a member of this organization and during the times of Marcos, all of our certificates were registered with the PKA and the Security exchange commission... Some of my old certifications back then were chopped with the stamp of the security exchange commission and our numbers were registered with both organizations..

Carlito Lanada was the president of the PKA for a while during this time,so most of the instructors under his lineage were registered with these organizations.

Bill My card number was 1794 under the PKA- all martial arts now fall under pigssa.

[jus_dann]

pigssa?

what`s that??

dan

[kuntawguro]

PIGSSA (Philippine Indigenous Games and Sports Savers Assoc)

[Kyud Robert]

Posting for GM Lito
I've known Kyud Lito for well over 40 years. From when he had his small back street school at 109 Findler St in 1967 Under the name of Philippine Chinese Fung fu Karate Ass. At that time his system was Shoron Ru forms with little or no political Accusation that I am aware of.

I have Honored Grand Master Carlito Lanada for his Traditional teaching the Love of all thing and Respect for all things in his teaching. His Words and I will again quote him. " If you show Respect for all things. your Spirit will protected you at all times " This is a Buddhist trait and one I have Honored for 40 years and found to be so true.

And anyone who has had to privilege of talking to Kyud Lito should listen and remember his word for they are carefully selected and well spoken.
I am now a 5th Degree Black Belt with IKF ans Shoto Kan systems and a Zen Master. And I wish to say Kyud Lito is one of the finest men if not the finest man I have ever met

Kyud Rob former North Americam Directer of IFK

[silat1]

Posting for GM Lito
I've known Kyud Lito for well over 40 years. From when he had his small back street school at 109 Findler St in 1967 Under the name of Philippine Chinese Fung fu Karate Ass. At that time his system was Shoron Ru forms with little or no political Accusation that I am aware of.

I have Honored Grand Master Carlito Lanada for his Traditional teaching the Love of all thing and Respect for all things in his teaching. His Words and I will again quote him. " If you show Respect for all things. your Spirit will protected you at all times " This is a Buddhist trait and one I have Honored for 40 years and found to be so true.

And anyone who has had to privilege of talking to Kyud Lito should listen and remember his word for they are carefully selected and well spoken.
I am now a 5th Degree Black Belt with IKF ans Shoto Kan systems and a Zen Master. And I wish to say Kyud Lito is one of the finest men if not the finest man I have ever met

Kyud Rob former North Americam Directer of IFK


When I was first starting in the Lanada Kuntaw, we were called the Maharlika Kuntaw Kungfu association, this was the clark airbase chapter under the direction of Conrado Turla (deceased 1998) and we were part of the PKA. At that time, The Kuntaw group was widely respected and we were always competiting in tourneys nationwide.. In 1980, we had the annual Fil-Am friendship tourney at Clark ab which Kyud Lito brought some of the guys up from the Olangapo school to support the group at Clark..
It was also during this time that this tourney was broadcasted nation wide on the GMA-7 program "Full Contact" which was hosted by Roland Dantes and other dignitaries with in the martial arts community of the Manila area..

I have known Kyud Lito since the early 70's and respect him immensely, I am currently a 3rd degree blackbelt in this system, but since Conrado died in 98, this is the extent of rank that I will achieve in this system.

[Kyud Robert]

I'll continue this story about the GM.

In 1995 I was living in Virginia USA and instructing at a World and National Level. At on East Coast tournament where my some was up for Grand Champion. I turn around and behind me was Kyud Lito. And at this same tournament he was introduced as one of the world outstanding instructors and a Member of the Martial Arts Hall of Fame.
To continue there is a large Filipino community in Virginia along with GM Lito daughter Kyudie Alice a 5th Degree Black Belt having a small school in North Carolina.
There seemed to be a Political conflict going on over who was going to run Kuntaw USA the GM or Kyudie Alice.
Now Kyud Lito published his book with many form detailed but no one seemed to know any of them..
I have one of his books and I must say the Best chapter is in his speaking of the foundation and continuing spiritual connection between Kuntaw and the unknown as us meager mortals call it.

I'm in Thailand now and hope to meet up with Kyud Lito Again

Respectfully Submitted Kyud Robert

[kuntawguro]

Posting for GM Lito
I've known Kyud Lito for well over 40 years. From when he had his small back street school at 109 Findler St in 1967 Under the name of Philippine Chinese Fung fu Karate Ass. At that time his system was Shoron Ru forms with little or no political Accusation that I am aware of.

I have Honored Grand Master Carlito Lanada for his Traditional teaching the Love of all thing and Respect for all things in his teaching. His Words and I will again quote him. " If you show Respect for all things. your Spirit will protected you at all times " This is a Buddhist trait and one I have Honored for 40 years and found to be so true.

And anyone who has had to privilege of talking to Kyud Lito should listen and remember his word for they are carefully selected and well spoken.
I am now a 5th Degree Black Belt with IKF ans Shoto Kan systems and a Zen Master. And I wish to say Kyud Lito is one of the finest men if not the finest man I have ever met

Kyud Rob former North Americam Directer of IFK

According to GM Lanada - he never has been associated with Chinese martial arts within the Kuntaw lineage. (this is in his book) the address was Fendler st just off of Magsaysay

I have watched the art change and reinvent itself over the past 40 years. What was gospel one time is now blasphemy. So, I am on my own.

Brian "Buzz" Smith former US Directer IKF, Former Canadian Director IKF, Former Midwest Regional Directer IKF

Check the Black Belt rank requirements in GM Lanada's book and compare them to the current belt holders in his organization. I have seen some yellow belts go to 4th degree black belt in 3 years.

[Kyud Robert]

I have Pictures of the school on Fenderler street and its name was Philipino Chineses Fung fu Karate Ass.

please get your information correct Buss who I have talked to is part of a Different org Not IKF. He is Brought KUNTAW to the U.S. in 1973 and established the American Maharlika Kuntaw Association

And you are correct in 67 I seen a yellow belt achieve his black belt in less then a year Kyud Gaggus
This is all the politices of the Grand Maters Program Not his teachings.

I agree with you again about how things have changed - Kyud Litos teachings remain the finiest in the world. No matter what Standing directer in HOBOKEN NOWHERE says Grand Mater Lito is and always will be one of the Finest men I have ever Met.

And as well as you I'm on my own carring his teaching in my heart aand a strienthened Spirit

[silat1]

According to GM Lanada - he never has been associated with Chinese martial arts within the Kuntaw lineage. (this is in his book) the address was Fendler st just off of Magsaysay

I have watched the art change and reinvent itself over the past 40 years. What was gospel one time is now blasphemy. So, I am on my own.

Brian "Buzz" Smith former US Directer IKF, Former Canadian Director IKF, Former Midwest Regional Directer IKF

Check the Black Belt rank requirements in GM Lanada's book and compare them to the current belt holders in his organization. I have seen some yellow belts go to 4th degree black belt in 3 years.


Buzz,
Both you and I know what was said in the 70's is not true today.. I have it from various sources in which you do also know what was said then as gospel is now words of contradiction..

I still have my patches somewhere where we were called the Maharlika Kuntaw Kungfu association and this was in 1974 as it was what Con was teaching..

I agree with you that the system has come and gone over the years and we have seen people who were yellow belts come up to 4th dan and higher in about 3 to 5 yrs.. I know of event where one individual went from 4th dan to 6th dan in less than 18 months and has spent less time in the art that you and I..

I was told by people within the Kuntaw circle that during the 40th anniversary in Olangapo that my name came out for selection to 6th dan, but was denied due to my being a renegade and not supporting the IKF/KNP or what ever the association is called now..

You and I have been the brunt of attacks by certain individuals who are still active in the Kuntaw system and yet we keep plugging along doing our own thing which is turning out quality students with out the political influences that abound in the system...

It was you. me and one other senior Kuntaw instructor, 2 of which were under Kyud Con's teaching that tried to get the association viable again, but we were shot down and were the recipients of a gag order which was basically telling us not to talk to each other and this gag order was put out by people who have illusions of grandeur due to their status in the Kuntaw system..

Just plug along and keep slinging these sticks as we both have touched hands and are quite sure of each other's qualifications to teach the Kuntaw system that we have been a part of for the last quarter century and will carry it on into the 21st century so that it doesn't die on the vine..

Just my .02 pesos

[Kyud Robert]

Now this is First hand information :::
I've reading some posts about Kuntaw and boy are some of them messed up.
In 1966 Lito was Teach Karate Haynon forms with no Black belt Kata's such as Kunko Di Unsu est.. when I left the PI I began studding in Minnesota and the Kata's where Exactly the same and even the teaching techinic was exactly the same -- no weapons and no contact.
now in 66 there was a Okinawa Shoran Ru school down by the market and there was actually a war going on with drive by throughing of garbage. I was told that Lito broke off from that instructor and opened his own school

Now todays forms as written in his book are extremely hard to perform such as Sagwa allot of extremely low cat stances where you actually down on your rear heal.

but when the GM and Kydie Alice and we all got together no one knew which way to turn in any part of any of the forms. And allot of Techniques from worthless Alice had no martial art application at all..

And not even Lito knew any of the forms -- I'm sure its different nowadays for they have this tiny little school way out in no mans land 200 miles from nowhere

this thread has been post by a Kuntaw Master according to the Grand Master himslf so take it for what it is worth

[Imua Kuntao]

They do what they call "x" forms and are very big on the foot work

[kuntawguro]

There has been an executive order put out by William Spence that says I was never awarded a Black Belt in Kuntaw.. Here is my rebuttalhttp://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c10/kuntawguro/?action=view&current=worldlanada.jpg

[silat1]

They do what they call "x" forms and are very big on the foot work


That's true some of our forms are called "X" forms, but the XA's were the hard version where as the XB's were the softer open hand style.. These were thrown out of the system for close to 20 yrs before they were reincorporated into the system and are now being taught by some of the older generation instructors (myself included)

The XA forms were a good base to start the student out with the understanding of the body mechanics required to do some of the applications that we were taught..

The XB forms were a way to learn how to use the more circular actions instead of the linear and more closely resembled some of the open hand forms that I learned in Taiwan, but the XBs aren't as complicated as some of the sets that I learned in Taiwan, so it is a good base.

BTW, The XA and XB forms were called balangkas which is similar to the langka and jurus from Penchak silat influence from Indonesia.

[kuntawguro]

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[froglives]

Kyud, GM Carlito Lanada, stood out among the students of the temple, calm, centered, he seemed to flow, not walk across the floor.


Meeting him was almost erie, he seemed to see right through the best and worst of you with just a glance. He was instantly, a father figure, a teacher, an old friend.


His presence was powerful, yet in full reserve. Like someone had tapped the power of the sun and hid it behind a cloud.


He had this perpetual half smile, if you caused it to go full your heart unexpectedly filled with pride. If you caused it to become a frown, your world stopped as you tried to correct your mistake.


He taught with love, I mean he truly loved what he did, if was infectious, this joy of sticks, blades, and empty hands, combat with no protection, full power full control, it was intoxicating.


His daughter Kudi Alice, said once to me, “you are possibly our worst student” , She was right, I was not there to be a student, I was just there to learn the best of what they had, as all I wanted to do was fight.


Kyud Lanada saw this, and I think took pleasure in teaching me the error of my ways, from the ten year old kids he paired me with in single and double sticks, kids that easily beat me, disarmed me, and broke my knuckles with the rattan. To sparring with his black belts whom I had at least a foot on and a hundred pounds of hard muscle, Kyuds and Kudis that easily and repeatedly exchanged the position of my feet with my head, slamming me to the floor, then helping me back up. With just a little bit of smiles or soft laughter at my plight.


In time Kyud Carlito took pity on me, and one day gave me that which I was seeking, the knowledge of how to fight. He took me outside the temple to the little balcony over the ally, sat me down with that half smile, that seeing you but not really looking at you stare, and placed a chess board between us on the bench. He stated, “You can’t fight, if you can’t think” “your mind is the key, not your anger or your might” He was so very right.
Kyud john

[kuntawguro]

The flagship organization of the IKF has fallen. All of the top council members have since walked away. This has been the end of the planned revamp of the IKF to be more responsive to its members.

[Datu Tim Hartman]

What happened?

[silat1]

What happened?

It is in both Buzz and my favor that we do not address this matter any further as it is best to let sleeping dogs lie.. Plus it is a kuntaw matter, not for everyone in the world to know what happened at the 50th anniversary of Kuntaw

[kuntawguro]

I am not sure, but, a lot of people who have stood by GGM Carlito Lanada for years have all walked away from him. There was a meeting called last September to streamline the IKF and get policies working. After the meeting , many resigned including his own daughter and her husband. They were the base for the IKF in the states. I am thinking it is the Philippine Grand Master curse-

[kuntawguro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZR64EF3OpA