FMA is for Military and Law Enforcers

[GrandTuhon Leo T Gaje Jr]

I am more specific to say that the true FMA is for military and law enforcers materials for street survival and for personal protection purposes. Since the art itself is Edged weaponry oriented and the techniques are based on Edged Weaponry the doctrine of training must be purely Edged Weapon Doctrine otherwise any changes in the teachings the cultural values are degraded and it loses its meaning as a true system.

More to the real history of FMA. The training discipline is not meant for civilian if it is civilian he must have a warriors mentality then it can pass the training.FMA is a fighting art. For every inch of the training is meant to destroy with complete success. The enemy is not given a chance to have a 2nd chance every thing ends at this point.

For the past 7 years of Balikatan Military Exercises between the US Marines, Special forces, Scout Rangers and US Force Recon Marines, the Philippines contributed the unique technology of Jungle Survival without food or water for 7 days and the Edged Impact Weapon Tactical Combat (PTK) while the US Marines for the Interoperabilty Exercises, the Philippine Marines were taught in the modern weaponry, Computer for war technology, modern beach assaults technology and Helicopter repelling.

The Edged Impact Weapon based on the Kali culture found its place among the Marines that most that went to Iraq had passed the Edged Weapon Tactical Combat Course held at Ternate, Cavite Marine Base.

There we found out that inspite that they were US Marines , the use of Edged WEapon has no place in their hands not until they had their first experience in the use of Ginunting as a tool of the Jungle as a close quarter weapon.The war in Iraq is a war of Ideology meaning the non-muslim must die under the mercy of the blade and the blood must drip into the ground.

Philippines being a Christian country ignore the fact that fighing against the Muslim will be a long war, the war of ideology.So what the Muslim will do to the Filipino hospitals and filipino patients, they will be killed for a reason.Meaning a WAR in the southern Philippines.

The technology of warfare between the Christian and non-Christian is governed by the principles of bravery. A Christian is brave because he wants to protect his assets and physical cash on the other hand the non-Christian will not participate in any of this because he is afraid to die, he has no bulls to fight the enemy for a cause.

One should not forget that big management firm is run by the organized terrorist and for this reason the control of crimes and corruptions can never be erased.The management firm stands today and will stay till the future.

[Pitboss 306]

With all due respect Tuhon, Isn't there a large portion of the Philippine Islands that traditionally follow Islamic/Muslim teachings? Those non- fanatical God fearing people, who aren't interested in the present state of conflict between faiths?

[nosyac]

With all due respect Tuhon, Isn't there a large portion of the Philippine Islands that traditionally follow Islamic/Muslim teachings? Those non- fanatical God fearing people, who aren't interested in the present state of conflict between faiths?Allow me to answer few things... hope you don't mind. Not large sir, about less than 10% of the population are muslims/islamic groups, majority are christians. As for your second question, conflicts now in the islands are not based on faiths and religion but economic stage.

[Pitboss 306]

Thanks!

[PG Michael B]

As for your second question, conflicts now in the islands are not based on faiths and religion but economic stage.

May I ask where do you get your facts, pertaining to this subject?

http://aps.naples.net/community/NFNWebpages/storyboard.cfm?StoryBoardNum=142&PageNum=150

2001-OCT-18: Philippines: Priest kidnapped: An Italian priest was kidnapped, presumably by radical extremist Fundamentalist Muslim rebels, while celebrating mass in a church in the southern Philippines. Muslims have been involved in a low-level war in the south of the Philippines with the mostly Christian government forces for centuries.

http://macdonald.hartsem.edu/articles_oliveros.htm


http://www.iiipeace.org/Philippines%20Causes%20of%20Conflict%20between%20C hristians%20and%20Muslims.htm (http://www.iiipeace.org/Philippines%20Causes%20of%20Conflict%20between%20C hristians%20and%20Muslims.htm)

These are but a few references to the religious conflict that takes place in the Philippines, to say it is mere economical is just factually wrong! If it is purely economical why then is it generally referred to as Muslim vs. Christian?

I do however believe that economics plays a major role in the conflict as does many other elements.

The press also bolsters the religious fervor, it sells better than a headline reading ECONOMICAL WAR...I would be suffice to say that MUSLIM vs. CHRISTIAN WAR BREWING would sell a hell of a lot more papers, don't you?

On a more humanistic scale, when bullets are flying from Christian guns towards Muslims or vice-verse, or when bombs from a majority Christian nation drop on Muslim villages, or when Muslim guerrillas kidnap, torture and control those who are Christians is it not then religious? People need to understand that at the rawest level of any conflict comes the people, on both sides, they will not see it as economical or social, far from it..they see it for how it effects them and what they believe in, an interloping of faith if you will. In the end it is those very people who truly suffer, and in that vein it is solely religious, as it has been for centuries!

Governments veil their agendas in the cloak of religion thus rendering it's people to fodder in events to come, using faith as their noose to choke their masses into believing their propaganda! Thus a religious idealism is put in place and bought by the people who are merely pawns in a game of power (TO THOSE DYING RELIGION IS THE REASON). History proves this point!

[nosyac]

Hello PG Michael B,

Facts? Don't have written facts. You just have to live in my country to know the reasons. True that there are history between faiths in PI but now... faith is no longer a factor because my country has too much corrupt officials than good ones.

I hope this is enough to answer your questions.

[silat1]

with all due respect
PTK isn't the only filipino martial art that has been taught to the US Military.. I have been teaching the FMA to military and local police departments since 1975 after I returned from the Philippines the first time.. The teachings that I offer to the US military aren't as wide spread as to the extent of what Tuhon Gaje has taken PTK, but I have done seminars for a university in the Philippines which also included the criminology class that one of my instructors was teaching defensive tactics with a strong influence drawn from his family's system of Filipino Martial arts.. I also have conducted training with personnel from some of the federal law enforcement while I was in the states.

I agree with the postings that the FMA is good for the law enforcement and military organizations, but PTK isn't the only FMA that is being taught to these agencies.

No disrespect meant,

Bill
Defensive Tactics