Dumpag Expanded

[GrandTuhon Leo T Gaje Jr]

One of the best contributions of Pekiti-Tirsia to the World of FMA is the hidden technology of Dumpag otherwise known as the Dumog-Pangamut.

Dumpag as a ground fighting system differentiates from other forms of ground fighting. The Muscle Tendon Destruction starts from the time there is contact by the opponents either in the arms or body, the Poison hand of the Dumoguero operates by using the razor sharp fingernails to create a wound for the poison fingernails to leave the poison substance inside the flesh to create neuro-toxic poisoning in seconds.

Dumpag is a Dirty Art with Dirty Tricks. It is not a sport art, it is a unpretenseous art with reality approach. It is a very safe art because together with the poison fingers, is the special anti-dote made by the Dumoguero. Only the Dumoguero knows the formula and it is kept with utmost secrecy.

Dumpag system is a Muscle Tendon Destruction doctrine of Discipline, living in the Philosophy of NO TOUCH POLICY. In the absence of a knife , the finger nails are the in built blades that can do more damage than the real knife.

The coming out of the different version of ground fighting , the filipino way of ground fighting is one the hidden secrets that is within the privacy of Pekiti-Tirsia Kali System.

Few had good experiences under my personal direct instructions. What has been out is just an introduction to the Bodega of Dumpag materials. Only few can learn if you are a real PTK.

[selfcritical]

My understanding is that the current dumog curriculum contains both the indigenous filipino wrestling/groundfighting elements, and your research into the malay and indonesian silat sources most closely related to filipino fighting, although refined to be taught and used more efficiently. Would you say this is an accurate assesment? Or is the latter contained within another curriculum?

[arnisador]

All the dumog I know is stand-up, but I have seen Jerson Tortal demonstrate some groundfighting aspects of it and thought it looked interesting--very different!

[GrandTuhon Leo T Gaje Jr]

What does this people know about Dumog ? You see most of those who claim Dumog is mixed with Judo, Aikido and even Jui jitsui or other mixed.

PTK Dumpag is 50% hand operated art 50% leg operated art both is a Muscle Tendon Destruction.Dumog is the leg destruction, the Pangamut is the functionality of the open hand for Muscle TEndon Destruction.

The real true Dumoguero is in the mountain region whose identity is kept away from other people since they joined the other ideology away from the government.So far in my personal interfacing with these Dumogueros , my Dumpag has not been taught to anyone I became friends of these group with the promise that in my teaching it must not be mixed and must be taught with purity.Of course I have to share the good things derived from my teachings. These Dumogueros are the best people in the practice of hospitality and all other practices of the true filipino culture.

[GrandTuhon Leo T Gaje Jr]

My understanding is that the current dumog curriculum contains both the indigenous filipino wrestling/groundfighting elements, and your research into the malay and indonesian silat sources most closely related to filipino fighting, although refined to be taught and used more efficiently. Would you say this is an accurate assesment? Or is the latter contained within another curriculum?.

The real Dumog is not the wrestling type . Once you touch you must be destroyed immediately.

There is no riding or grappling. If by chance you can grapple it is because you fought with a non-killer dumoguero even then, the system within the mentality of real Dumoguero is to terminate you without delays.

You have to think along the line of fighting more than one , can it be three people or more.

So the art of Dumog is very conservative. No survivor in real encounter.

[arnisador]

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You have to think along the line of fighting more than one , can it be three people or more.

Great point. Most grappling styles are all but useless against two or more opponents. But dumog is much more dynamic and can move an opponent some distance so you're not stuck in one position waiting for the other opponent to hammer you from behind.

[Combat Kali]

I had the privilege of training one on one with GT for 10 days in tri v and dumog, malay sibat. Gt's Dumog is what he says and I come from a long ju jitsu background. It was different, destructive and can respond to a multiple attack situation. It is what he says.
Hugh Doherty
Australia.

[GrandTuhon Leo T Gaje Jr]

I had the privilege of training one on one with GT for 10 days in tri v and dumog, malay sibat. Gt's Dumog is what he says and I come from a long ju jitsu background. It was different, destructive and can respond to a multiple attack situation. It is what he says.
Hugh Doherty
Australia.

I can testify to the 10 days training of Hugh when he came to Bacolod City for a serious intensive training. His ability to know and understand the principles within the structure of Pekiti-Tirsia made him capable to equate the applicable techniques for an effective result. What made him to understand and know the principles of Combative Knife and the applicability of Dumog is the fact that he has the warriors heart. Welcome Hugh to the 2008 Advanced mastery PTK Camp to be held at the SOLEADS -PTK INTERNATIONAL CAMP CENTER. gt