Roll Call

[Chris Wiggins]

Now that we know who teaches what to whom I have a question. How many of y'all have trained with Tim or Tuhon in, let's say the last year or two?

I'll speak for Eddie as I know he has. I've seen Dustin's name pop up here and there, and I know he has.

I'm just curious as to how many current PTK guys (or gals) are about.

BTW, I have.

[Chris Wiggins]

Man, it got quiet in here in a hurry.

[Biohazard]

I watched the video "Surviving Edged Weapons" with tuhon in it.

[Chris Wiggins]

that's great, but not really what I'm looking for. Hopefully, you weren't watching that when partaking in your "interest"

Get yourself to a seminar, then come back and report.

[Biohazard]

typo. imagine my embarassment.

i forgot to mention that i have watched all of tim and tuhon's training videos as well but have not had the opportunity to train with them.

[khd29]

One day, I would like to have the opportunity to play the banjo.

[PeteNerd]

Now that we know who teaches what to whom I have a question. How many of y'all have trained with Tim or Tuhon in, let's say the last year or two?

I'll speak for Eddie as I know he has. I've seen Dustin's name pop up here and there, and I know he has.

I'm just curious as to how many current PTK guys (or gals) are about.

BTW, I have.

I've attended seminars with Tim and Tuhon in the last year.

Pete

[Chris Wiggins]

KHD,

Little known fact. Guro Hunt comes from a long line of deadly Appalacian Banjo Masters. He can show you the best way to get from A to E.
Also, Tim will be in NY mid to late May. Contact Eddie (he should be released from time out soon) for more details.

[blindside]

In the past year I've been to two of Tim's seminars and my instructor brought Tuhon in for three days last year (as he does yearly).

Lamont

[Ventura]

I have been training with Tuhon and Tim. I'm in Long Beach, Ca

[blindside]

I have been training with Tuhon and Tim. I'm in Long Beach, Ca

Hi Meynard, I met you at Tim's Katrina-aftermath Camp.

Lamont

[Kalisong]

I've been training under Tuhon since early 90's . started out with his first Generation students ( Tom, Bill, Omar, My bro Rj ) and been with Tim in Camps but nothing like the being with the Grandtuhon himself.

I was just with him last feb 2007 with my guys. Here are some clips of Tuhon at our stie Rochester kali http://www.rochesterkali.com

and some pics of how it is to train back homehttp://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b190/kalisong1/?action=view&current=1176511973.pbw

http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b190/kalisong1/?action=view&current=1175474759.pbw

enjoy...

"Kuya" Doug Marcaida

[franci1911]

I am one of the first generation students of Grand Master Gaje training under him the 70's

[CARP]

Train with them in the US and the PI.

[DM03]

Greeting to all...

On and off over the last three years, I have been trained by both Maginoo Tim and Tuhon Gaje. If you have been interested in training yet have never gotten to it, do yourself a huge favor and go see them. It'll open your eyes.

Chris, we are actually bringing Tuhon Gaje here to the Sunshine State of Florida the weekend of June 23-24 to the Boca/Miami area for his first U.S. seminar of 2007. Should anyone be interested in joining us, contact me for further details.

Thanks and best regards to all,

Dino Martinez
dinomartinez@hotmail.com

[trainer9731]

I began training PTK in the early 90s under Omar Hakim I then continued my training with Tim Waid when he moved back from the Phillipines in the 90s, and of course with GT Gaje every time he is within a 5 hour drive.
I have been a Police officer since 1992 and a Police Trainer since 1996.
I have been teaching PTK (a edged weapons counter ambush course) to the Officers as a part of thier departmental training. I have received alot of help and support from Tim in developing these courses.

Although I am certified in PPCT, TASER, Manadnock, Controlled Force, etc. I can truly say that Pekiti Tirsia is unsurpassed in its understanding of combative principles and how the practicioner can APPLY them in survival situations.

Thanks

[Ventura]

Hey Lamont,

I remember you guys! How's the training? It's nice to have a consistent training partner eh?

[Combative Edge]

I actually just got home saturday from training with Tuhon in the Philippines for a month. What a great experience. It will definetely be a yearly trip.

[bladedone]

I have been training with Maginoo Tim.

[bladedone]

A couple of seminars with Tuhon Gaje.

[SuperToe]

Train Privatly and thou seminars under Tuhon Phil gelinas..
Love PTK.

[Gilla]

Eddie Hunt student of Mataas Na Guro Tom Bisio , Mataas na Guro Tim Waid and Grand Tuhon Leo T Gaje and Banjo master.
Eddie

[Gilla]

Tom and Tim are Maginoo now! I'm just happy to be free.
Eddie

[arnisador]

Tom and Tim are Maginoo now!

Can someone define Maginoo for me (maybe in another trhead)? We don't have that title in our system.

[PeteNerd]

Can someone define Maginoo for me (maybe in another trhead)? We don't have that title in our system.

http://www.pt-go.com/system_rank.asp

All the Pekiti Rankings are there.

Pete

[arnisador]

http://www.pt-go.com/system_rank.asp

All the Pekiti Rankings are there.

Ah, thanks! Now I see how it fits in.

[akatrk]

Eddie,

Good to see that your back bro.

[wes tasker]

Eddie-


Eddie Hunt student of Mataas Na Guro Tom Bisio , Mataas na Guro Tim Waid and Grand Tuhon Leo T Gaje and Banjo master.

How often do you train with Tom Bisio? Is he holding regular Pekiti Tirsia classes? Thanks.

-wes

[GabeUrban]

Hello Chris,

This is Gabriel Martinez from San Antonio, Texas. I train with Tim at least two weekends a month and Trained with Tuhon Last Month in the Philippines.

Thank you,

Gabriel Martinez

[Beungood]

I train Rhode Island with Guro William Schultz who is a privtae student of Mandala Tim Waid. I have thus far trained with Tuhon Leo Gaje twice. I have yet to traine with Mandala Waid.

Awesome vids on the Rochester website!


Jack Ouellette

[Chris Wiggins]

How's it going Gabe,

This weather is making me long to be back in Manila. It seems like it was forever ago. Hope all is well.

[Gilla]

Wes , Tom taught me about 12-14 years ago in his back yard in upstate N.Y. anywho i thought you are happy learning from tuhon Bill and PTI.
Eddie

[Gilla]

Gabe how are you? See you this summer at the instructors camp.
Eddie

[wes tasker]

Eddie-



anywho i thought you are happy learning from tuhon Bill and PTI.


I am, thank you. I was just curious as to when you studied with Tom as I was sure he hadn't actively taught Pekiti for some time. Thanks for the info and take care.

-wes

[Gilla]

Wes, How is that paladin long and short sword working out for you ? Does it work well for flying monkey's and orc's.
Eddie

[wes tasker]

Eddie-



Wes, How is that paladin long and short sword working out for you ?


It actually has nothing to do with me. What's curious though is why are you bringing it up Eddie? What is it that you're trying to say? Tuhon Bill's book and associated projects have nothing to do with the Pekiti Tirsia that he teaches. But again, I have to wonder what you're really getting at - besides another failed attempt at a punch line...

-wes

[Gilla]

Failed ? I think it's funny and so do others. Paladin swordwork ha whats next? Flying carpets.
Eddie

[wes tasker]

Nice side-step of my questions with yet more boorish attempts at humor on your part...

-wes

[lhommedieu]

Eddie,
While I was on vacation I responded to one of your posts but you didn't reply. I was wondering if you'd respond now, and give me your honest take on what I said.

The first quote is yours:


Just as it did with Tuhon Bill. All i can say is that all three Tuhon's have very diffrent styles. But Tuhon Gaje's being most like what i learned from Maginoo Tom Bisio when i first started. In fact there is no diffrence because Tom learned the doce methodos from Leo.

Here is my reply:


Here I have to disagree with you. I hope that I am not speaking out of turn when I say that Tom and Tuhon William McGrath came up at the same time and learned the same curriculum. I can't see much "stylistic" difference between Tuhon McGrath and Grand Tuhon Gaje in this clip:

http://www.pekiti.com/video_clips/LEO96-ALL.mpg

Of course, I've never met GT Gaje and don't know how he has developed Pekiti Tirsia Kali in the last ten years. The man is a legend and, if Tom's attitude is any indication, a complete master of Filipino martial arts and the true heir to Pekiti Tirsia Kali. That's undisputed. For that matter, Tuhon McGrath has never, in the few years that I've been attending his classes and seminars spoken with anything less than glowing respect for the man he generally refers to as "my teacher." I believe that his comportment should be a model for the rest of us.

With respect to Tuhon McGrath, I've had the advantage of learning a little Filipino martial arts under both Tom Bisio and Bill Schettino (no slouch, as I am sure you are aware, at understanding the "essence" of Pekiti Tirsia), and can with that lens observe that he is a superlative teacher. We've trained together up in Fishkill so you know what I'm talking about. Personal and political agendas don't take away skill level.

Best,

Steve Lamade

[lhommedieu]

Sorry, but I have to get up at 5:30. I guess I'll catch up then...

Best,

Steve

[Gilla]

Yes it was a nice side step. It's all in the footwork, some people have it and some don't. Anyway this thread is about roll call so i started a new one.
Eddie

[Epa]

I train with Tim and Tuhon Gaje when I get the chance.

Eric

[CARP]

You mean when you are not being exhibited at the zoo.

[Stinky Weasel]

I see where Mr. Carps is hosting a seminar for Mr. Tims. I think i will go there for training. The park of Eagles sounds like good place. Eagles have sharp claws. I have watched these Eagles eat large rats on the Youtube.

[Chris Wiggins]

From the sound of it, you will not be welcome.

[Stinky Weasel]

Ha Mr. Chris. You give the humour. The weasel is like the oscillot, not like the rat.

[franci1911]

Hi Stinky Weasal I beleive you mean oscelot. None the less please keep that line of thought because the Eagle (bird of prey) is among one of the natural enemys (predators) to the oscelot.

[franci1911]

Whoops mis-spelled Weasel

[GabeUrban]

Hello Eddie,

How are you? I hope all is with you and your family! I will be hosting GrandTuhon Gaje in San Antonio June 30th and July 1st, 2007. Hope you can make it down.

Gabe
www.ptk-pitbulls.com (http://www.ptk-pitbulls.com)
www.customfighting.com (http://www.customfighting.com)

[Dustin]

Mr. Wiggins,

Late post. I haven't been on this thread. I train with Tim on a regular basis (2-3 times since the beginning of this year) and Tuhon during his seminar tour here in the states. I highly recommend training with them and attending as many seminars as you can.

I will be hosting Tim this coming weekend (28th and 29th). Check the seminar thread for more information or send me an email.

Sincerely,
Dustin B. Denson
Guro
http://www.rivercitykali.com
dbden@rivercitykali.com

[Chris Wiggins]

Dustin,

Mr. Wiggins? Dude, I've been in your car, and eaten BBQ with you. What's this Mr. BS?

I've been trying to work more y'all's into my vocab. Hope to see you again this fall.

Chris

[equilibrium]

I go to everything in Dallas with Tim and Tuhon but don't travel out of town...

[smiley]

Hello!

I'm Nick and I train under Matass Na Guro Gabriel Martinez in San Antonio, TX.

Hope to see some of you tomorrow at the seminar with Maginoo Mandala Tim Waid.

[smiley]

What's up Mr Jason sir dude?! It's good to see you! We met at the seminar Mr Tim Waid had up in Dallas (a month or two ago).

Anyway, Gabe suggested that I check this site out so I can get to meet more Pekiti devotees.

I'll try to visit this site at least once every other week.

Hope to see you tomorrow man! It was fun to train you last time.

[Malapitan]

I'm a student of Guro Rommel Tortal in Manila. I train with Tuhon Gaje when he drops by Manila. I haven't met Guro Tim yet.

[mronkain]

So far, Grand Tuhon Gaje hasn't been in Finland. Uli Weidle is coming here for the third time though. Couldn't make it last year and can't make it this year, but I was there two years ago. He's a great teacher! My training has been on an on-off basis anyway, hopefully some time in the future more often.

- Marko