TAPI Tapi

[silat1]

Ok, let's pretend that I am a beginner in eskrima/arnis/kali. In the training that I've had in both the Philippines and limited exposure to it in the states with modern arnis and have to scratch my head when I hear the term Tapi-Tapi. I have trained with some of the affiliated instructors of both Professor Remy and Ernesto in the Philippines from back in the 70's and 80' and never heard the term tapi tapi until I came back stateside in early 2005. I have attended a seminar with GM Bambit here in chicago, but never thought about asking the definition of Tapi Tapi. Could someone enlighten me with the definition and practicality/application?

Maraming Salamat PO

Bill

[arnisador]

The professor didn't start emphasizing it until the mid-90s. The "counter-the-counter" drills are mostly block-and-lock scenarios out of solo baston. To simplify, our sticks strike one another, I try to control your stick with one hand while throwing/feinting a strike with the other to bait your (predictable) response, which I then take advantage of to lock you up. Of course, there's more to it than that! There are several prearranged techniques of that variety. Some examples are at the IMAF site, e.g. here (http://www.modernarnis.net/technique/jun05.shtml).

[Datu Dieter]

Hi

regarding Tapi-Tapi: I have uploaded a clip to YouTube recently, where you can see me doing Tapi-Tapi during an exhibition in 2004. Here is the URL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79loBO3z_Hg

Perhaps this helps.


Regards


Dieter Knüttel

[lhommedieu]

Ok, let's pretend that I am a beginner in eskrima/arnis/kali. In the training that I've had in both the Philippines and limited exposure to it in the states with modern arnis and have to scratch my head when I hear the term Tapi-Tapi. I have trained with some of the affiliated instructors of both Professor Remy and Ernesto in the Philippines from back in the 70's and 80' and never heard the term tapi tapi until I came back stateside in early 2005. I have attended a seminar with GM Bambit here in chicago, but never thought about asking the definition of Tapi Tapi. Could someone enlighten me with the definition and practicality/application?

Maraming Salamat PO

Bill

Tapi-Tapi was a term used by the Saavedras to describe how to control the stick with the "alive" hand; unfortunately there is not a lot of information available that describes these techniques, but it is probable that they survived in some form in the Doce Pares and Balintawak curriculums. Momoy Canete adapted Tapi-Tapi techniques to espada y daga (wherein the dagger is used to control and monitor the opponent's stick or sword) when he developed San Miguel Eskrima. One might look further at Cacoy Canete's development of "Eskrido," wherein the alive hand is used in techniques that lock and throw the opponent.

It is just conjecture but seems reasonable to assume that Remy Presas, who after all spent considerable time in Doce Pares and Balintawak camps, developed his own interpretation of Tapi-Tapi on the basis of his exposure to these kinds of techniques.

Best,

Steve Lamade

[silat1]

In the balintawak system that I train, we never have used the term tapi tapi, our instructors just said, move and if you snoozed, you loosed.

I think I under stand the tapi tapi term now, I was taught that it was counter and in balintawak system that Master Reston taught, it was a version of counter attacking, but not the stick, primarily the arm and then to the body...But this type of training was done back in the 70's and when you are in the military, you have to have a certain pain level developed to withstand the minor distractions of getting hit and putting your discomfort on a back burner to complete the mission. especially if you are a medic, you learn to disassociate yourself from your feelings, but when they catch up, they are a mug to deal with.

maraming poong salamat

Bill

[Rich Parsons]

In the balintawak system that I train, we never have used the term tapi tapi, . . .

Bill

I have to agree I have not heard the Term Tapi-Tapi either.

The concept of Managing, Monitoring and Delaying the opponents' weapon is part of the Live or Off hand training. To the point that Manong Ted Buot calls the Left Hand the quarterback.